MOTM

A reasoned post, indeed.  That is why I objected to the original - not
the content per se, but it's potential to turn a quiet oasis into a
bombed out hulk :)

The CD idea is great!  I would contribute and buy!

Mike

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Larry David <ldavid777@s...> wrote:
> 
> On May 31, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Mike Marsh wrote:
> 
> > I agree.  This is inappropriate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, mbedtom@a... wrote:
> >> In a message dated 5/30/2005 10:54:50 PM Central Standard Time,
> >> elhardt@a... writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Art or laughter don't benefit survival either.  Evolution is a 
> >>> mostly a
> >>> fraud, and many are moving away from it.
> >>>
> >>> -Elhardt
> >>>
> >>> "a superior intelligence has guided the development of man in a 
> >>> definiate
> >>> direction" - Alfred Wallace, Darwin's coauthor and simultaneous 
> >>> inventor of
> >>> evolution by natural selection.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Politics and religion are forbidden subjects on this list for obvious
> >> reasons.  We live in a pluralistic society with people holding many 
> >> points of view.
> >> However, this list is not the appropriate venue for the display
of our
> >> political or theological orientation.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >> Tom Farrand
> >>
> 
> I think most of us see the practicality of limiting the discussion on 
> this list to MOTM - or at least to synth related things in general, 
> like the patch book idea, or analog synth CD idea Elhardt mentioned.  I 
> have been thankful over the years that the discussions here have 
> remained mature and civil, unlike every other list I have read.  I 
> suspect there is as much diversity of ideas and tastes here as 
> elsewhere, but for whatever reason, we have maintained a great 
> atmosphere for discussion, imo.  Maybe we are a smaller group, or older 
> on average than say, AH - whatever; as long as we can keep it going.  I 
> will say one thing though, in hopes of furthering the tolerance of the 
> plurality of ideas we find among us - as a wise man once said, "take 
> the log out of your own eye, before you help your friend take the speck 
> out his", which is a slight paraphrase, for those of you who know the 
> reference.  To wit, here is the original quote from Elhardt, who was 
> quoting someone else (I deleted that original post and don't remember 
> who it was):
> 
> 
> >> There have, for instance, been studies that show that music causes 
> >> activity in the emotional centers of the brain in newborns. This is 
> >> somewhat perplexing, because it would seem to indicate that there is 
> >> a survival benefit attached to having an emotional response to
music, 
> >> (or else why would we have evolved it?)<<
> 
> Art or laughter don't benefit survival either.  Evolution is a mostly a 
> fraud, and many are moving away from it.
> 
> -Elhardt
> 
> 
> I find it interesting that no one responded to that original post 
> saying that it was inappropriate to talk about evolution; or more 
> specifically, to imply that of course Darwinism is true and accepted by 
> all.  I can only guess that it was because most of us agree with that 
> assumption - or at least have a blind spot and don't see such a claim 
> the same way we see Elhardt's.  Hence the log in some of our eyes, 
> perhaps.  I personally almost responded to the original post with 
> something like Tom's response to Elhardt's, reminding the poster that 
> not everyone here has the same assumptions about evolution, but thought 
> it better not to say anything, figuring that would be the end of it, 
> and such things come up so rarely that it would be better that way.  
> Anyway I'll stop using BW for that - just thought it might be helpful 
> since the maturity level here suggests to me that we may be able to 
> receive constructive criticism.  :)
> 
> On topic, I think Elhardt's idea of an analog synth CD, with 
> contributions by people who do the kind of music he was talking about 
> would be great.  I like the "bug music" too - like Robert Rich's 
> Bestiary - I can listen to that CD over and over and not tire of it.  
> But my favorite electronic music is more traditional in style I guess - 
> diatonic with identifiable structure, etc.  I've been waiting for the 
> Aaron Copland of my generation who composed for "synth orchestra", and 
> he/she has yet to appear.  Tomita or Carlos are about as close as I 
> have found, and neither of them is exactly what I was hoping for.  
> Anyway, I'd buy such a CD!  :)  (I'd even try to contribute something 
> if I could...)
> 
> Larry D.