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I happened to be at one of the first trade shows at which the Warp Factory
was demoed, and I happened to have recently built the Pluggo vocoders, so I
specifically asked one of the Electrix reps how many bands the Warp Factory
used. The Warp Factory does not have the classic banks-of-filters vocoder
architecture. Hence the "order" knob does not change the number of filters,
although its effect is similar. Instead, the Warp Factory has a proprietary
architecture based on the same pitch-following technology that IVL developed
for their PitchRider products. (Electrix was a subsidiary of IVL.)
 
To say that Vokator is not useful for live performance "since it is software
based" is erroneous. There is nothing about software that makes it
inherently inappropriate for live performance. There are many factors that
determine the usability of software for live use, some of which have nothing
to do with the software itself (e.g., the size of the I/O buffers of the
audio interface used to move signals in and out of the software is usually
the greatest factor in the so-called "latency" of the system). The
MicroKorg's and K-Station's vocoders ARE software based, to put it to a fine
point.
 
--Adam
(owner of four vocoders, designer of two)
 
 
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From: imorpheusl@... [mailto:imorpheusl@...] 
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:48 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Vocoder?
 
 I have 4 vocoders in my setup - an electrix warp factory (24 band), korg
microkorg (8 band), novation k-station (12 band), and native instruments
Vokator (up 1024 bands can be analyzed). 
     The warp factory has an "order" knob that allows you to change the
number of BPFs, Q aka resonance, noise generator, a gender knob for formant
shifting, and a built in oscillator with pitch control so you don't need an
external source except for the formant input (your voice or whatever). 
      The microkorg allows you to change the level of each of the 8 BPFs and
do formant shifting. The synth engine sounds really nice too. Sounds better
vocoding drums and such - I find that it just sounds better for that
application.
      The novation K-Station has very little as far as control over the
vocoder except for a wet/dry mix. IMHO though the lack of controls makes up
for the sound quality of the vocoder. Really good transient response esp.
for drums. 
     Native Instruments Vokator sounds good but since it is software based
using it in real time (esp w/ 1024 freq bands to analyze) makes it pretty
horrible for live performance. I use vokator more for the time strectching
effects to get glitch/granular sounding samples. Really good for mangling
but I have never used it to vocode my voice.
     To sum everything up the warp factory in my opinion sounds the best for
vocals while the microkorg and K-station are really good for non-vocal
vocoding. The microkorg and k-station sound allright with vocals but I find
the warp factory is the most intelligible. Don't by Vokator for the vocoder
- like I said it is great for sample mangling but not really funcional in
real time vocoding situations. Hope this helps!
-Chaz
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ithaib <ithaib@...>
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:15:44 -0000
Subject: [motm] Vocoder?
Hello all,
 
I want to purchase a vocoder, however there are not many being produced, and
I 
don't 
want to get a vintage one... any suggestions anyone? (you ever thought of 
designing one 
Paul?)
 
1. There is one that was made by MAM called the VF-11, which I can probably
find 
 
somewhere although they are not producing it anymore. Has anyone tried this
one 
out?
 
2. Paia Vocoder, anyone?
 
3. Electrix Warp Factory - this one I could probably try out somewhere since

they just 
released it, but maybe someone has used one and would like to comment?
 
4. Doepfer
 
I'll appreciate any insights, thanks,
 
Ithai B.
 
 
By the way, regarding the posts about how synthesizers are not appreciated
or 
whatever it 
was, go see the new Star Wars movie, the score is amazing, and there are so
many 
synth 
effects going on and sound design in general its a real treat.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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