MOTM

BTW, I should also add that using both SpyBot and AdAware together is 
a great strategy.  On top of your virus scanner, of course.  And 
remember to let the scanner do it's job: some folks turn their 
machines off and the scanning part never happens!

All right, back to your regularly scheduled music conversations...

Mike

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Marsh" <mmarsh@w...> wrote:
> With all due respect, IE and Outlook have all of these protection 
> features and more.  There is no need to switch, just learn how to 
use 
> your software!  90% of folks getting viruses and the like on MS 
> products is because 90% of the folks are using MS products.
> 
> The Mozilla products are good, too.  Don't get me wrong, use what 
you 
> like.  I wonder what Spybot and AdAware would report on machines 
> using other than MS products, though...
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Les Mizzell <lesmizz@b...> wrote:
> > > "system.exe".  The file was dated 4/1/04 (April fools day).  
Here 
> is some
> > > info on this nasty piece of spyware that was copying files from 
> my machine.
> > > 
> > > http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/trojtofgerb.html
> > 
> > What email client are you using? If Outlook or Outlook Express - 
> dump 
> > them immediately. There's so many holes in them both that it's 
not 
> even 
> > funny. You'll find that almost 90% of the folks getting viri, 
> trojans 
> > and the like are using Microsoft ...
> > 
> > I have been using Mozilla Thunderbird for some time now. It's 
very 
> nice 
> > and there's a number of security features built in - you can stop 
> remote 
> > graphics from loading - JavaScripts will *not* run unless you 
tell 
> them 
> > to - executables are prohibited from doing so - there's built-in 
> > configurable "spam" filters as well. You won't be disappointed.
> > 
> > Additionally, if you're using Internet Explorer - it makes it 
> really 
> > easy for some sites to install "spy ware" when you visit their 
> sites 
> > without you hardly even knowing. There's no pop-up protection 
> unless you 
> > install a third party product...  If you're using I.E., switch to 
> > Mozilla Firefox instead. It'll block unwanted pop-ups for you and 
> keep 
> > things from getting installed in the background. In addition, 
it's 
> a 
> > nice standards-complaint browser.
> > 
> > Keep your virus protection updated, and use something that scans 
> all 
> > incoming emails and scans content from websites as you browse as 
> well. I 
> > use the Kaspersky products myself and have been very happy: 
> > http://www.kaspersky.com/
> > 
> > For those of you on high-speed connections - install personal 
> firewall 
> > software that monitors incoming connections for you and will ask 
> you if 
> > a connection is to be allowed or denied.
> > 
> > Keeping your computer "disease free" is sorta like making sure 
you 
> > always practice "safe sex".  It's not impossible to do with a 
> little 
> > effort....
> > 
> > -- 
> > Les Mizzell
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> > There's no place like 127.0.0.1
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