MOTM

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "mate_stubb" <mate_stubb@y...> wrote:
> Ken - 
> 
> You can continue to check your "cranky old man hand-written" code in 
> and out of SourceSafe without using VisualStudio. We use it at work 
> to do just that. It's actually kind of a nice tool. We have a plugin 
> that allows us to update our Linux servers from a Windoze server 
> running the SS database.

SourceSafe is evil too; CVS on Linux is both better and free.  (And if
you want something that is better still and you don't mind paying for
it then check out BitKeeper).
 
> VisualStudio is evil. It was bad enough when it was Visual C++, but 
> it's way worse now. Push a wizard button and watch megabytes of code 
> get generated, using templated classes that nobody can understand. I 
> escaped two years ago and revel in my (comparative) freedom from 
> MicroSloth.

I actually rather like VisualStudio - it's about the only really good
bit of software that Micros~1 ever wrote.  It's arguably the best C++
environment around, though I realise that this isn't saying much; C++
is itself a manifestation of purest evil and for technical reasons you
can't write a decent IDE for it.  (See IntelliJ-IDEA or just about any
enviroment for LISP for an example of an *advanced* IDE).

I agree that the Wizards are evil and should be avoided.  I get the
impression that Ken would agree with that too :-)

(Currently I'm in the stone-knives-and-bear-skins environment of gcc,
gdb and vi: it feels like I'm living in the 70's, but at least I can
debug a remote app on the servers over a slow modem link.  Visual C++
would seem like heaven right now, though).

Harry