You may be overthinking the issue. When a synthesizer uses 'footages' to mark off an octave switch, it's basically just saying that "16' is an octave below 8'" and "2' is two octaves above 8'." You can tune your VCOs to ANY frequncy, and changing the "footages" just switches octaves in that way, relative to a "base footage" similar to the way all of the notes of an organ keyboard relate to a base footage marking. As mentioned by others, there are real, physical reasons why a pipe organ uses footages --- pulling stops for footages switches in/out ranks of pipes of different lengths, and therefore different "harmonics," in the science of the time at least. Synthesizers simply adopted the rough thinking of the pipe organ in this respect. It was just a way of applying an accepted musical instrument concept to the new machine that makes sounds electronically. There is no absolute correlation on a synthesizer between a footage and a frequency. It's a very simple thing going on here. Some here have tried to explain how the length of a pipe affects resonance _on a pipe organ_, but if you're wondering why frequencies on a Korg MS-10 don't match what they've written, it's because you're dealing with a synthesizer, not a pipe organ. Just treat the powers-of-two as octave switching and don't overthink the issue. -----Original Message----- From: Tentochi To: motm@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2/21/2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [motm] Pipe Length Frequency Equivalents The responses have been VERY interesting and insightful. But they really didn't answer my question. What is the relationship (if any) between the pipe lengths marked on a synthesizer and the frequency output. The frequencies mentioned in the replies seem too low for what I hear on my synths. That did me think of the psychoacoustics of pipe organs. I don't think a lot of churches can accomodate or afford the largest pipes. So I have seen 3 things done to accomodate this: 1. Lay the pipe sideways on the floor. 2. Use a synthesized tone with a large subwoofer. 3. Use an implied tone. Off the top of my head, I can't remember exactly how this is achieved. But this is the most interesting IMO. This also brings up the topic of resonant frequencies of different spaces. Of of my favorite techniques when perform is to tune my kick (TR-909) to the resonant frequency of the performance. You want to talk about a hell of a kick. People can't figure out how I am doing it. I have seen a couple of other performers also use this technique. Most of my current work does not have any kicks in it unfortunately. I have NOT tried pre-tuning my synths to the resosant frequency yet. Has anyone else tried this? I think the cool thing is that it comes in resonating as opposed to tuning it manually during the performance. Shake the rafters! I guess there is the potential of literally bringing the roof down with a sufficiently strong sound system and a sufficiently weak roof. Mind Your Bass Bins Mate! Shemp > On many traditional analog synthesizers, the octave > was denoted by "equivalent" organ pipe lengths. I > think the extant of the range is something like 64", > 32", 16", 8", 4", 2", 1". Typically the range is > some like 16" to 2". > > What is the corresponding frequency range for each > of > these pipe lengths? What notes are the pipes > themselves tuned to? Is this the first note for > that octave? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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FW: [motm] Pipe Length Frequency Equivalents
2003-02-22 by Tkacs, Ken
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