Here is the complete response of Roger to the review of his new modules posted to this list, as he as posted to his list: Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:23:07 -0000 From: "roboroger" <rarrick@...> Subject: New module review There should be no problem finding the review, the competetion has captured the moment and reposted it on their forum. I suppose it makes others look and feel better. Makes me feel terrible if anyone cares. It's the only thing I've thought about for the last 24 hours. Someone should tell Margo, she thinks a friend died or something. Q123 Standards: I was never contacted about of this issue. Too bad because it's a simple resistor value problem on 1 drawing and took only 10 minuites to find after I read the review. A batch of boards around here has as many has 25,000 resistors. Looks like 4 of the Q123's I shipped have this wrong resistor in the 'add in' summer which accounts for that problem. The prototype and preproduction run worked fine so beta testing wouldn't have caught this. Of course I'll be offering a fix for free including shipping, prompt and polite. Hopefully you get the same kind of service from Microsoft, CompUSA, General Motors. Or maybe you get endless denials and "sorry sir our system won't allow..." :) I'm sorry some feel the freqency and voltage standards shouldn't be on the same module. If there was a universal format/layout that would make all happy I would do it. I threw away many customers by even using the moog panel size, my using +15/-15/+5 power, by using 1/4" jacks, by selecting the company name, etc. Q161 Oscillator Mixer, Q162 Filter Mixer: These are not really new modules at all, but simply new panels for the Q112/Q113 PCB. I found myself using mixers this way and decided to offer these modules because it was simple to do and some people were wanting to reduce patchcords. I hope no one feels like they are required in their systems. Notch and BP are (ALMOST) mutually exclusive when used full force but you get to control the value of each and that is something you have to use a mixer for. Q127 Fixed Filter Bank: This filter was inspired by the Moog 914 but uses common opamp filters instead of big coils. I borrowed Eric Norlander's and plotted the responses. If I had used coils, this discussion would be about the $1200 price tag. But now I'm faced with the issue that with all the knobs off there is feed through (sort of like a no-pass filter :) and the highs are getting through. Even though the all-off condition is not very useful, it's an issue for some and I respect that. I specifically did this because I got tired of putting low pass filters on every output for dampening. Has anyone ever looked at a moog modular on a scope? Spikes, overshoots, crosstalk everwhere. It looks like an electron battlefield. I believe this is part of that great moog sound, it's not perfect which is good. Look at a triangle wave on a digital synth - almost perfect, like smooth plastic, not american walnut. Right now I'm working on a mod to change that response on the Q127 for any what wish. Yes, it will be free including shipping, and a smile :) Q140 Fixed Filter Aid: Simply cables coming from the Q127 filter to a panel. Haven't seen other modulars offer this and thought it was a good idea. The signals are attenuated by 75% because of the way the Q127 filters work, which means they might be 2.5V PP which is still larger than the moog systems. Making them a full 10V PP could become an issue since they are likely to be mixed anyway. Q143 Preset Module: This module was specifically ask for by one of my friendly customers and it was a simple and clean implementation. I'm happy and my customer is happy but doing small specials like this might be making me a lot of enemies, and I didn't foresee that. I'll probably only sell 10 of these a year so it's a financial loss. Q146 Normalization: This module is bascially a panel with a bunch of wires. Requested by a very small number of my customers for patchcord clutter. Frankly, it violates some of the hyper-modularity concepts that I had sought for this system. It's not designed to be a multi-cabinet solution. Again, I might have somehow turned off more customers than I gained which suprises me. The design and manufacturing process is blanketed with potholes. I don't pretent to be great at either. This is especially true of low-volume products like analog synthesizers. It's very difficult to stay in business and it's difficult to work all year and not make very much money. But I do handle issues/problems responsibly and ethicly. As everyone knows who has done business with me, you're welcome to a refund if not happy with any of my products or service. As it sits now, the latest batch of modules will probably be a financial disaster for more than a year. This is mainly because I rely on my customers (happy and unhappy) for promotion, not $10K/mo ads in magazines. I probably should have used that time with the kids. I'm often asked why I do this, frankly I'm not sure anymore. My skin is way to thin, but that's my problem. Peace, R > > stuff he mentioned in his post, and then some. As a synth it kind > > of sucks, but as a processor it's really great. And it has a cool > > interface! > > > > Mike > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > >
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Re: modules review
2002-06-19 by Len DeFazio
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