i did moe's manual pushbutton gate mod and it works great. http://motm.retrosynth.com/markus_stuff/motm800 mods mark At 06:55 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >For quite some time I've been contemplating a couple of enhancements to >the 800 ADSR generator. The obvious "wants" are a manual gate switch (to >audition that portion of a patch), either a "gate on" LED or a gate output >LED (that tracks voltage level via intensity), and an adjustable gate delay. > >The gate LED has already been done >(http://www.hotrodmotm.com/800_mods.htm) and a manual gate switch is >pretty much cake, but the delay option is a little more involved. Am >looking for opinions on the viability of this idea: Add the activity LED >like Moe did, add a manual gate switch as has been suggested by many, and >turn the SUSTAIN pot into a dual-use mode: SUSTAIN/DELAY. I envision that >a multifunction piggyback board be added to the 800. The manual gate >switch (an NKK switch to match other MOTM modules) is used to trigger a >gate on-demand. But this added NKK switch would have a center-off, and >momentary On/On capability. When the NKK switch is lifted, a manual gate >is created and the 800 module works as if a gate-in has been >received. Let go of the added NKK switch and all is normal (gate goes >away). But, press down on the added NKK switch and you have selected the >"delay-time-set mode". Using the existing SUSTAIN pot, adjust for the >desired DELAY time wanted (1 millisecond to 10 seconds, log >curve). Release the added NKK switch and the module works as normal >except that the added piggyback circuit "remembers" the selected delay >time and delays each incoming gate by the user-selected amount. (Of >course the SUSTAIN pot will have to be adjusted back to where it was >before you adjusted the delay time.) By again lifting the added NKK >switch, one can audition the delay time just added. > >Getting this to work is not difficult. But would this be a workable user >interface? (Yes, the SUSTAIN pot is linear... the conversion to a >log-taper for time-delay adjustments would be handled by circuits on the >piggyback board using a PIC processor, a couple of opamps, and some >passives. And yes, just like a dedicated pot, the piggyback circuit would >remember delay settings even after the synth is powered down. This >circuit is designed, but not yet prototyped.) > >Lastly, I would sacrifice the -ENV output in favor of a voltage control >input for the delay time. That way, delay times could be made to vary by >note, random event, or anything else one could dream up. This >modification would certainly require some hacks to the existing 800 >module, but should be minimal in severity and number. The changes would >be reversible. I would suggest that a pair of MTA-156 connectors be added >to the piggyback board and use a short (3") MTA-to-MTA cable to supply >power to the 800 board to preserve use of the existing cable. > >In conclusion, one would end up with an 800 that has a manual gate switch, >gate activity LED, an adjustable gate-delay over a wide range of times, >and a gate-delay voltage-controlled input. That, while adding only 2 >small holes in the front panel of the MOTM 800 (LED and NKK switch). > >Comments? > >Cheers! >Tom Farrand > >Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >ADVERTISEMENT > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [motm] MOTM-800 ADSR With Gate Delay?
2002-03-13 by djarum11
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