Actually mine is a partial star. Two points anyway. The top and bottom row are on separated ground wires. The second TM I built I did as Larry and ran all the grounds out, keeping the CV and audio separate. But I'm not sure which is better. I can not hear, see, feel, or taste anything different between the two. But then I don't know if I'm a qualified connoisseur of fine circuitry :) dave At 08:44 AM 2/26/02 -0600, J. Larry Hendry wrote: >OK, I'll offer up an opinion and disclaimer. > >I did not exactly follow John's recommendations. But, I did use up all the >ground pads available on the PCB. You will notice I combined some grounds >and not others. I did not mix CVs and audio or anything else that logically >made sense to me might interfere with one another (which seemed to be John's >basic approach too from my casual observation). > >Here was my small brain's thought process. In an unbalanced scheme, there is >as much signal current in the shield as the signal conductor. So, if you >have only one wire from jacks to PCB, then all these currents mix on the way >to the PCB. And, no matter how hard you try to keep them separate, you >cannot completely because they jacks are all quite well bonded at the panel. >So, some interaction between CVs and audio caused by the voltage drop in the >ground connection will occur. Ideally, there would be no common path >(isolated grounds, isolated path on the PCB). But, that of course is not >the case. > >My thought was that I wanted as little interaction between I/Os as possible. >So, that meant to keep the R of the ground connection from jacks to the PCB >very low. Therefore, I went with the multiple wire method. I assume the >single wire method might work just as well, provided the wire was not >significantly undersized. Since there is a limit to the wire size that can >connect to the TM PCB, the multiple wire path made sense to me. > >Disclaimer: I don't posses the educational accreditation to support my >theory. This is not meant to be an instruction on how it should be done, >but rather an insight on what I was thinking when I largely just followed >the designer's recommendation and made my own decisions. I have never built >any of my modules with the "strap 'em all together, one ground wire" method. >In fact looking at my Multimix, I see I used shielded I/0 and used heat >shrink near the PCB where I tapped the PCB end of the shield to run a ground >wire over to the SCRN connection (unless using the adjacent ground >connection). I am also not offering any criticism to the other methods. > >Larry (now you know how my crazy brain works somewhat) Hendry > >P.S. Since the TM is basically a "lo-fi" device AND according to our quiet >list friend Harry B, "BDDs suck" does it really matter? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: thomas white <djthomaswhite@...> >To: <motm@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:33 AM >Subject: [motm] Conversions Question > > >I am in the process of converting my Blacet Time Machine to MOTM format and >pose this question. Since all of the grounds on the Blacet schematic >individually "star" back to one point on the pcb, can't I simply connect all >the jacks with unshielded wire in a star type web and run one connection off >this web to the pcb ground for the same overall effect? I used the >unshielded wire method and it appears to work fine. Although in looking on >Larry Hendry's page I noticed that his model uses Blacets wiring scheme >while Dave Hylander uses the "Oakley Type" unshielded wire approach as I >did. Comments? > >Thomas White > >PS. Nice to not have to fiddle with 1/8 cables anymore :) > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [motm] Conversions Question
2002-02-26 by Dave Hylander
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