Bruce, The OSCar filter description sounds fantastic! Think of the possibilities if this filter were redone in MOTM format. Actually, it could get quite complex if one were to try and make use of all of the possibilities. There could be a switch to set 2x2-pole, 1x3-pole or 1x4-pole. Multimode settings could be HP, LP or BP for each section. CV in for separation. Each section has CV in for FC and Q. Possibly offer multiple tap points (and use 830 to mix). Very interesting! In the scenario you describe where there are two 12db sections, if one set to HP and the other set to LP, it sounds a little like two 420s in serial (one HP, the other LP) has that covered. You have control of CV for the FC and Q for each 420 (aka. "section"), essentially a very flexible BP. At high Q levels, does this filter support going into self-oscillation? George ----- Original Message ----- From: <bruce@...> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: [motm] Re: The Major Vintage Filters Not misplaced at all. One filter that I think is over looked in your list (it often is) is the multi mode filter in the Oxford OSCar. The OSCar was a hybrid Digital / Analog synth from the mid 80's. The waveforms were produced by the Z80 CPU that ran the beastie, and the rest of the signal path was analog. OSCar was designed by Chris Hugget, the person who was behind the EDP synths before. The EDP Wasp used a pair of OTAs to produce a multi mode 2 pole filter. This filter exists as a module for some german company today, as well as Jurgen's schematic as well. The OSCar filter put two of these filters in series to create a 4 pole multi mode filter, with a couple of interesting twists. The filters funtioned as 2 12 db sections, and each section could have both low pass and high pass output. Chris could have designed BP and NF in there as Jurgen did, but wait for the interesting trick. Because the whole thing was under CPU control, there were some interesting manipulations that could happen in the circut. First of which is a knob called "Separation". The 2 12db stages could have their cutoff frequencies controlled independantly. By moving this knob the FC would be moved up or down (depending on stage and setting) to widen out the resonance peak. At high Q levels this was (and still is for those of us with OSCars) lots of fun. MODE STAGE 1 STAGE 2 SEPARATION Highpass HP HP +Stage1 / - Stage2 Lowpass LP LP +Stage1 / - Stage2 Bandpass LP HP -Stage1 / + Stage2 Now, looking at the circuit, there are a lot more things that could have been done. Each stage is really 2 6db OTA based things, so it should be possible to use 3 of the 4 to get an 18db response, or just 2 of them to do 12db. Again because the CPU is supplying the CV for cutoff and resonance, it should be possible to have nice separation effects in each mode. This circuit is based largely on the LM13600 OTA, but it should be possible with the CA3080 as well (As Jurgen has done). Great examples of the sound of this very unique filter: Ultravox - Almost everything they did from Quartet on J.M. Jarre - Oxygen and onward Future Sound of London - ISDN, Dead Cities Bruce Further OSCar reading at: http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/sep99/articles/oscar.htm Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [motm] Re: The Major Vintage Filters
2001-06-22 by George Kisslak
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