> My goal is to make the thing compatible with as many different foot > controllers as possible. I use the Yamaha FC-7 and think it is far superior > to ANYthing else out there. But, I know some people may use the Roland > EV-5(?) and perhaps others. I'm also using FC-7's and FC-9's a lot, and yes, I like them much better than any other brand of pedals I've tested. The problem with these Yamaha pedals is that they are so non-standard in their connections. Sleeve is GND (well, at least that is standard), Ring is the wiper of the pot, and Tip is the cw end of the pot. Just the opposite of every other pedal I know. This is why I'm making the modulation inputs on all my FX devices (and on some of "my" MOTM modules as well) compatible to other, "standard" pedals with the Tip being the output (wiper) of the pot. (See for the Ring connection, or no ring connection, below.) For the Yamaha pedals, I'm using a special cable with Ring and Tip connections crossed. Why that ? Even when I'm mostly using Yamaha pedals, a pedal input should also serve as a normal CV input, and here the standard is doubtless Tip = Input. That much for Yamaha versus the rest of the world (;->). Now back to a pedal interface, as I usually do it. These pedal potentiometers have a medium to high impedance. (I think 50k nominal for Yamaha - from memory, but it's printed in the manual or even on the pedal itself, or something between 10k and 100k for other pedals I've seen. So you can feed the Ring (to "supply" the pedal) with a rather high resistor. 50k Pot, 100k "feeding" resistor from +15V results in 5V maximum for the pot. And 100k is high enough that you can short it to GND with a Mono plug and use the input for normal control voltages. But even "better" (depending on the situation): Don't feed the ring at all. Just use a Mono jack and feed the 100k resistor directly to the (Tip) input. Use a normalized jack that shorts it to GND when nothing is plugged in. Now you can connect the pedal, and the pedal pot will not work as "potentiometer" anymore, but just as a variable resistor which is one (the lower) half of a voltage divider. (The 100k resistor is the upper half, of course.) And if you want to use the input for normal CVs, no problem either, the low impedance of the driving module will easily override the 100k. This works very well in many of my modules, and I think I have even included it in some MOTM designs as a "hidden feature" where I thought it useful, and where no other criteria were speaking against it. (You won't want that on precisely scaled 1V/Oct inputs for instance.) If you have an input that has no such feature you can feed 5V DC into a standard guitar volume pedal (a cheap one with just a pot, no active opto stuff) and use the output for controlling the Module's CV input. For 5V DC, use the smallest 9V or something wallwart, and add 2.2kOhm, a 5.1V zener diode and a 10uF electrolytic. You can either fit that into the pedal, or even into the wall wart. JH.
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Re: [motm] HELP with MOTM pedal interface and voltage source
2001-02-08 by jhaible@t-online.de
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