Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> somewhat off topic, but what will be the resolution of the software
> control over the hardware mods? 6 or 7 bit?
>
>
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> "The problem with capitalism is that it best rewards the
> worst part of us: the ruthless, competitive, conniving,
> opportunistic, acquisitive drives, giving little reward
> and often much punishment - or at least much handicap -
> to honesty, compassion, fair play, many forms of hard
> work, love of justice, and a concern for those in need."
> -- Michael Parenti, Land of Idols (1994)
>

> I am guessing that the second kit would cost under $50 bucks while the
> memory and software upgrade kit is going to be close to $100.
>
> What does everyone think about that?
>
> Mike.
>

>
> What does everyone think about that?
>
> Mike.
>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Phoebe" <october71@...> wrote:
>
> > I am guessing that the second kit would cost under $50 bucks while the
> > memory and software upgrade kit is going to be close to $100.
> >
> > What does everyone think about that?
> >
> > Mike.
> >
>
> I think it's brilliant =)
>
> So, the second kit is a standalone thing, or an add-on to the first?
Either way, I'm cool with it,
> for sure. Wow, I'm really looking forward to this!
>
> Phoebe
>

>
> I just ordered enough parts for 10 kits.
>
> Am now looking into this whole eBay seller thing.
>
> Have three (3) PCB's on hand. Will order another 10 within a week or

>
> So the kit is coming soon!
>

> Is there a list we can sign up to for position in getting the kits yet?

> No, I don't have a list, I was just going to start taking orders on
> ebay.
>
> But, thinking about it, there might be a bit of a rush on orders
> initially. So in order to make sure that I order the right number of
> PCB's to begin with, I am opening a poll where people can vote with how
> many kits they are going to order AS SOON AS THE KIT BECOMES AVAILABLE.

>
>now that i'm on the other side of the planet in
> NZ, having successfully escaped ...financial collapse ;)
>

>
> The first kit is the memory/software upgrade. It makes your Poly 800
> or EX 800 into the Hawk 800. This gives you all of the MIDI and
> portamento etc.
>

> The second kit is an add on to the first kit. It makes your Hawk 800
> into the aTomahawk 800. This will put the FM and Moog Slayer mods
> under parameter/EG/MG and MIDI control. You can't use this kit

> installing the memory/software upgrade first.
>
>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Wilson <JB@...> wrote:
>
> as always, im keen for 2 straight away!!
>
> i wanna get cascade mode working on my two polys
>
> best regards,
>
> Marcus
>
> On 27/02/2008, at 11:36 PM, korgpolyex800 wrote:
>
> > > Is there a list we can sign up to for position in getting the
> > kits yet?
> >
> > No, I don't have a list, I was just going to start taking orders on
> > ebay.
> >
> > But, thinking about it, there might be a bit of a rush on orders
> > initially. So in order to make sure that I order the right number of
> > PCB's to begin with, I am opening a poll where people can vote with
> > how many kits they are going to order AS SOON AS THE KIT BECOMES
> > AVAILABLE.
> >
> > That should give me a good indication of how many kits I should get
> > ready right from the start.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:
>
> > No, I don't have a list, I was just going to start taking orders on
> > ebay.
> >
> > But, thinking about it, there might be a bit of a rush on orders
> > initially. So in order to make sure that I order the right number of
> > PCB's to begin with, I am opening a poll where people can vote
with how
> > many kits they are going to order AS SOON AS THE KIT BECOMES
AVAILABLE.
> ===============
>
> that's cool, but it shouldn't stop you from putting a few kits on
> evil-bay. not everyone is on this list, and that should be a good
> opportunity to let the unwashed masses help subsidize those of us on
the
> list ;)
>
> i just voted "none" but i'll be waiting for both kits to be
available, so
> i can save on shipping... now that i'm on the other side of the
planet in
> NZ, having successfully escaped the decay of the US into totalitarian
> fascism, and financial collapse ;)
>
>
> --
> ...atom
>
> ________________________
> http://atom.smasher.org/
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> -------------------------------------------------
>
> "But speaking generally on the vulnerabilities [Bev] Harris
> mentions, Diebold spokesman David Bear said by phone that
> no one would risk manipulating votes in an election because
> it's against the law and carries a heavy penalty."
> -- Wired News, 22 Sep 2004
>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "zoinky420" <zoinky420@...> wrote:
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800"
> <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > The first kit is the memory/software upgrade. It makes your Poly 800
> > or EX 800 into the Hawk 800. This gives you all of the MIDI and
> > portamento etc.
> >
>
> Sorry I wasn't here when you discussed the finer details of this
> upgrade. To save me the trouble of searching the archives could you
> repeat the description of what exactly the Hawk upgrade will do? As
> in, what all the 'MIDI stuff' refers to specifically? I assume it
> will give my Poly 800 the functionality of the EX 800, and I
> understand the extra functions the EX/MK2 rom provides, but what are
> the additional functions provided by the Hawk upgrade? Also is the
> Hawk memory backed up with its own battery for those of us without
> battery-backed up Poly 800s? Thanks!
>
> > The second kit is an add on to the first kit. It makes your Hawk 800
> > into the aTomahawk 800. This will put the FM and Moog Slayer mods
> > under parameter/EG/MG and MIDI control. You can't use this kit
> without
> > installing the memory/software upgrade first.
> >
> >
>
> So you mean the Tomahawk gives you midi (CC?) control over the FM and
> Moog slayer mods?
>
> The second kit seems pretty expensive, more than I paid for the Poly
> 800 itself. Although I'd love to get my hands on the 12/24 filter, I
> think I will probably order the Hawk kit only and install the usual
> FM & Moog Slayer hacks myself.
>

>
>> Yes, the second kit will put the Moog Slayer, FM-800 and 12/24 filter
> switch under parameter and MIDI CC control. I haven't worked out what
> the price will be for it because I've not actually built it yet. But
> it will definitely be less than $50 maybe even $30. I just haven't
> done the bill of materials or the math yet.
>

>
>>
> While in the US, did you ever write or phone your congressman?
>
> The reason I ask is because absolutely every single person that I've
> spoken to that has held similar sentiments as you hold has NEVER
> called or written their congressman. It's all whining, complaining and
> pontificating repeating the current liberal talking points but NEVER
> active involvement in the political process. Someone once said,
> Democracy is not a spectator sport.
>

>
>you'd be far more
> influential getting a position as a paid advisor to a politician than
> you would writing a jillion letters. Or run in an election yourself,
> and take the piss out of your competition in debates. Even becoming

> journalist, who can slant and bias articles the way you want, would

> more effective than sending a letter to a politician to be filed in

> circular filing cabinet.
>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "zoinky420" <zoinky420@...> wrote:
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> > While in the US, did you ever write or phone your congressman?
> >
> > The reason I ask is because absolutely every single person that I've
> > spoken to that has held similar sentiments as you hold has NEVER
> > called or written their congressman. It's all whining, complaining and
> > pontificating repeating the current liberal talking points but NEVER
> > active involvement in the political process. Someone once said,
> > Democracy is not a spectator sport.
> >
>
> Well since we're already off topic!...
>
> I think that writing your congressman or other elected-official is a
> waste of time, unless you're writing a letter expousing a position your
> recipient already agrees with, in which case he or she may send copies
> of the letter to the media as means to demonstrate his or her support
> among the voters. Congressmen and other elected officials do not sit
> around in their offices wondering what position they should support,
> just waiting for someone to write them a letter telling them what to
> do. They come to politics heavy with ideology and they work in
> politics for the purpose of advancing that ideology. If it's really
> important to you to have some influence in govt, you'd be far more
> influential getting a position as a paid advisor to a politician than
> you would writing a jillion letters. Or run in an election yourself,
> and take the piss out of your competition in debates. Even becoming a
> journalist, who can slant and bias articles the way you want, would be
> more effective than sending a letter to a politician to be filed in the
> circular filing cabinet.
>
> Democracy is probably the best system available, but that does not mean
> it's a great system. By its very nature it must pander to the lowest
> common denominator (watching political tv commercials around election
> time in democratic countries demonstrates that much), and I think that
> recognizing that is of chief importance to those who seek to protect
> and bolster democracy. Holding it up as a gold standard that can do no
> wrong and must be forced upon every non-democractic population in the
> world in order to save them from dictatorial boogeymen only serves to
> weaken democracy's usefulness and popularity. Don't get me wrong, I
> supported both of the recent middle-east wars, until they were won and
> became occupations with bringing wonderous democracy to the defeated
> used as an excuse to keep pushing them around ad infinitum...
>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@ ...>
wrote:
>
>> Yes, the second kit will put the Moog Slayer, FM-800 and 12/24 filter
> switch under parameter and MIDI CC control. I haven't worked out what
> the price will be for it because I've not actually built it yet. But
> it will definitely be less than $50 maybe even $30. I just haven't
> done the bill of materials or the math yet.
>

Thanks Mike! Ok, that sounds pretty good, I had thought you said the
Hawk mod would be $50, and the Tomahawk would be $150, meaning to get a
Tomahawk you'd need to spend $200, but perhaps you were putting the
Tomahawk price together with the Hawk price in your previous post

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> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800"
> <korgpolyex800@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> > While in the US, did you ever write or phone your
> congressman?
> >
> > The reason I ask is because absolutely every
> single person that I've
> > spoken to that has held similar sentiments as you
> hold has NEVER
> > called or written their congressman. It's all
> whining, complaining and
> > pontificating repeating the current liberal
> talking points but NEVER
> > active involvement in the political process.
> Someone once said,
> > Democracy is not a spectator sport.
> >
>
> Well since we're already off topic!...
>
> I think that writing your congressman or other
> elected-official is a
> waste of time, unless you're writing a letter
> expousing a position your
> recipient already agrees with, in which case he or
> she may send copies
> of the letter to the media as means to demonstrate
> his or her support
> among the voters. Congressmen and other elected
> officials do not sit
> around in their offices wondering what position they
> should support,
> just waiting for someone to write them a letter
> telling them what to
> do. They come to politics heavy with ideology and
> they work in
> politics for the purpose of advancing that ideology.
> If it's really
> important to you to have some influence in govt,
> you'd be far more
> influential getting a position as a paid advisor to
> a politician than
> you would writing a jillion letters. Or run in an
> election yourself,
> and take the piss out of your competition in
> debates. Even becoming a
> journalist, who can slant and bias articles the way
> you want, would be
> more effective than sending a letter to a politician
> to be filed in the
> circular filing cabinet.
>
> Democracy is probably the best system available, but
> that does not mean
> it's a great system. By its very nature it must
> pander to the lowest
> common denominator (watching political tv
> commercials around election
> time in democratic countries demonstrates that
> much), and I think that
> recognizing that is of chief importance to those who
> seek to protect
> and bolster democracy. Holding it up as a gold
> standard that can do no
> wrong and must be forced upon every non-democractic
> population in the
> world in order to save them from dictatorial
> boogeymen only serves to
> weaken democracy's usefulness and popularity. Don't
> get me wrong, I
> supported both of the recent middle-east wars, until
> they were won and
> became occupations with bringing wonderous democracy
> to the defeated
> used as an excuse to keep pushing them around ad
> infinitum...
>
>

I am sure you have one eye on those who may not have
the finances at the moment but may come in at a later
date. It all sounds interesting stuff.
Cheers Al

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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@...> wrote:
>
> why don't you take this offline guys, it's getting a bit ugly.
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:
> >
> > > Check out the NY Air Force web site again. There is NO combat
> > > capability.
> > >
> > > Facts. Tricky aren't they.
> > =============
> >
> > you said "Good luck in New Zealand, where they have NO AIR FORCE!" you
> > didn't say anything about combat capability. what you said was wrong,
> > nothing tricky about that.
> >
> > FTMP, the military in NZ is a defensive force, not an offensive force.
> > when was the last time NZ invaded another country?
> >
> > > The United States armed the Australians so they could fend off the
> > > Japanese in Darwin, Guadal canal, Papua New Guinea, freed Singapore,
> > > island jumped through Indonesia, helped the Malay's.
> > =============
> >
> > the US also armed iran (using funds from CIA drugs deals in
nicaragua);
> > armed iraq (when iran was evil, this includes the chemical weapons
that
> > saddam used to gas his own kurdish population); i could go on...
the US
> > will arm anyone with cash, and in some cases anyone without.
> >
> > > If you like Michael Moore that much, go live in Cuba where they have
> > > Universal NOT medicine.
> > =============
> >
> > or NZ, where hospital emergencies are covered and preventative care is
> > well subsidized. you have to admit, it's pretty sad that the
"heroes" of
> > 9/11 can't get proper medial treatment until micheal moore brought
them
> > cuba!
> >
> > > Oh, you went to town hall meetings in the Communist State of New
Jersey.
> >
> > > No wonder you're a pessimist.
> > =============
> >
> > wtf??? it's your right to call me crazy, but do look in a mirror
sometime.
> >
> > > Buy my kit and enjoy free capitalism.
> > ==============
> >
> > what ever made you think i don't enjoy capitalism? i think that, like
> > socialism, it would be interesting to try it on a large scale. if you
> > believe that either of those economic theories have ever been
implemented
> > on a large scale, then you're really a fool. several examples of
recent
> > history *claim* to have been one or the other (while proclaiming the
> > inherent evils of the other), but if you look behind the curtain
you'll
> > see how they're not operating as advertised.
> >
> > > As Bill Buckley once said, I may not agree you but you're in my
world
> > > and that doesn't mean I have to kill you.
> > >
> > > Ask a few fundamentalist Islamicists their opinion on that.
Sharia all
> > > the way man.
> > =================
> >
> > you think islam has a monopoly on radical fundamentalism? i don't
recall
> > any cases of muslims bombing womens' health centers. add to your
list of
> > movies "jesus camp". there are people in the US who think homosexuals
> > should be stoned to death, and they're not muslims.
> >
> > > I will not surrender!
> > ================
> >
> > so what are you gonna do with the money you raise from the kits?
stock up
> > on canned food and ammunition, so your basement is well stocked
and ready
> > for hillary to take away your HMO? and ready for the UN to invade
the US
> > with black helicopters? you're further off the deep and than i am.
check
> > out some of the movies i've mentioned, and feel free to debate me on
> > facts... not the flimsy soap-box you're on.
> >
> > --
> > ...atom
> >
> > ________________________
> > http://atom.smasher.org/
> > 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
> > -------------------------------------------------
> >
> > "My kind of loyalty was loyalty to one's country,
> > not to its institutions or its officeholders.
> > The country is the real thing, the substantial
> > thing, the eternal thing; it is the thing to
> > watch over, and care for, and be loyal to;
> > institutions are extraneous, they are its mere
> > clothing, and clothing can wear out, become
> > ragged, cease to be comfortable, cease to
> > protect the body from winter, disease, and death."
> > - A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Epiik Soul <electrohead2000@...> wrote:
>
> Its rare that I put in my two cents....
> While my own poliitical views are definitely aligned with one of
you, in this context, it doesn't really matter which one.
> This forum is for the exchange of ideas about our mutual passion,
that wonderful little beast that has wormed its way into all of our
hearts, the poly800.
> As a longtime devotee to hardware hacking and mods in general, I
have the greatest respect for both of you and your contributions to
this forum. Keep up the good work and leave politics out of it.
> Respectfully
> Lucifer
> "Sadly, there is just enough religion in the world to make men hate
one another but not enough to make them love each other"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jure zitnik <kokoon@...>
> Sent: March 01, 2008 4:02 AM
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Definitely off topic...
>
> why don't you take this offline guys, it's getting a bit ugly.
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:
>
> > Check out the NY Air Force web site again. There is NO combat
> > capability.
> >
> > Facts. Tricky aren't they.
> =============
>
> you said "Good luck in New Zealand, where they have NO AIR FORCE!" you
> didn't say anything about combat capability. what you said was wrong,
> nothing tricky about that.
>
> FTMP, the military in NZ is a defensive force, not an offensive force.
> when was the last time NZ invaded another country?
>
>
> > The United States armed the Australians so they could fend off the
> > Japanese in Darwin, Guadal canal, Papua New Guinea, freed Singapore,
> > island jumped through Indonesia, helped the Malay's.
> =============
>
> the US also armed iran (using funds from CIA drugs deals in nicaragua);
> armed iraq (when iran was evil, this includes the chemical weapons that
> saddam used to gas his own kurdish population); i could go on... the US
> will arm anyone with cash, and in some cases anyone without.
>
>
> > If you like Michael Moore that much, go live in Cuba where they have
> > Universal NOT medicine.
> =============
>
> or NZ, where hospital emergencies are covered and preventative care is
> well subsidized. you have to admit, it's pretty sad that the
"heroes" of
> 9/11 can't get proper medial treatment until micheal moore brought them
> cuba!
>
>
> > Oh, you went to town hall meetings in the Communist State of New
Jersey.
> > No wonder you're a pessimist.
> =============
>
> wtf??? it's your right to call me crazy, but do look in a mirror
sometime.
>
>
> > Buy my kit and enjoy free capitalism.
> ==============
>
> what ever made you think i don't enjoy capitalism? i think that, like
> socialism, it would be interesting to try it on a large scale. if you
> believe that either of those economic theories have ever been
implemented
> on a large scale, then you're really a fool. several examples of recent
> history *claim* to have been one or the other (while proclaiming the
> inherent evils of the other), but if you look behind the curtain you'll
> see how they're not operating as advertised.
>
>
> > As Bill Buckley once said, I may not agree you but you're in my world
> > and that doesn't mean I have to kill you.
> >
> > Ask a few fundamentalist Islamicists their opinion on that.
Sharia all
> > the way man.
> =================
>
> you think islam has a monopoly on radical fundamentalism? i don't
recall
> any cases of muslims bombing womens' health centers. add to your
list of
> movies "jesus camp". there are people in the US who think homosexuals
> should be stoned to death, and they're not muslims.
>
> > I will not surrender!
> ================
>
> so what are you gonna do with the money you raise from the kits?
stock up
> on canned food and ammunition, so your basement is well stocked and
ready
> for hillary to take away your HMO? and ready for the UN to invade
the US
> with black helicopters? you're further off the deep and than i am.
check
> out some of the movies i've mentioned, and feel free to debate me on
> facts... not the flimsy soap-box you're on.
>
>
> --
> ...atom
>
> ________________________
> http://atom.smasher.org/
> 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> "My kind of loyalty was loyalty to one's country,
> not to its institutions or its officeholders.
> The country is the real thing, the substantial
> thing, the eternal thing; it is the thing to
> watch over, and care for, and be loyal to;
> institutions are extraneous, they are its mere
> clothing, and clothing can wear out, become
> ragged, cease to be comfortable, cease to
> protect the body from winter, disease, and death."
> - A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
>