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Re: [korgpolyex] Reanimator (about my dead poly800mk2)

2004-07-21 by Andre Schaap

As i said ic34 is responsible for scanning the keyboard, so if this ic 
is defective, you won't hear a sound. So far the manual is right.
However, since Marcus said midi out is ok, i presume that the keyboard 
is working, otherwise you'd have no midi output, except for the sequencer.
Maybe Marcus can reply to confirm this.

English is not my first language , so i hope you understand.
Please send me page 6 and if possible the complete manual.

Regards

Andre

x x wrote:
> Then why does it say on page six that if no sound is heard at all that 
> this is the cause?
> I can email the page to you Andre...
> Inm just wondering.
> 
> */Andr\ufffd_Schaap <andre@...>/* wrote:
> 
>     hi,
> 
>     If you don't have schematics you can find it here:
>     http://www.oldcrows.net/~patchell/poly800/poly800.html
> 
>     ic 34 is responsible for scanning of the keyboard matrix.
>     So, if you say midi out is ok then this ic is not defective.
>     If ic34 is defective, you still should have sound when using midi in.
> 
>     If you have an oscilloscope you can check pins 28 to 36 of ic 3 for
>     tone
>     output.
> 
>     This is the sound generator ic.
> 
>     Please check and report.
> 
>     BTW, TC40H138 is a very common ic.
>     If you can't find the toshiba version, there are plenty of other
>     manufacturers that produce this ic.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Andre
> 
>     Marcus Wilson wrote:
>      > CHEERS!$!@$
>      >
>      > will take a look at my stuff n see what i can see!
>      >
>      > most grateful thanks!
>      >
>      > Marcus
>      >
>      > On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, at 06:17 PM, x x wrote:
>      >
>      > let me know if you got my info on the chip # ic 34 page six of the
>      > repair manual for vers one and 2 is the same in this realm. TC40H138
>      > fails there will be no xound heard for some or all of the groups.
>      > This seems logical to assume that since all other functions seem
>      > working that this would be the answer.When you get it to work I have
>      > patches to trade.Good luck
>      > Alien
>      >
>      > */Marcus Wilson /* wrote:
>      >
>      > sounds like an excellent start anyway!@
>      >
>      > i have put my poly to one side at the moment, as i had no clue as to
>      > where to proceed, this at least gives me a direction.
>      >
>      > once again thank you for the info, hopefully it will bring one more
>      > poly back to life!
>      >
>      > thanks!
>      >
>      > Marcus
>      > On Monday, July 19, 2004, at 05:34 AM, x x wrote:
>      >
>      > > Ok im looking up chip today you will have to find the chip on the
>      > net
>      > > I dont think ill have one to spare. It wasnt easy locating the last
>      > > set ...
>      > > It sounds so like the main problem described in the tech notes up
>      > date
>      > > that I fixed a poly with ....
>      > > Will let you know today.
>      > > Patrick
>      > >
>      > > Marcus Wilson wrote:
>      > >
>      > > awesome!~
>      > > i'd be very keen to find out more.
>      > >
>      > > Mine was dead until i replaced a couple of power transistors in
>      > the +/-
>      > > 5V stage that were buggered, and had been poorly messed with by a
>      > > previous owner.
>      > > I bought mine for $10 in a carpark junk sale, and took it home,
>      > > managed to get the midi control side going so now i can control my
>      > > other gear with the poly,
>      > >
>      > > all of the patches etc can be edited stored etc, and i managed to
>      > > reload factory settings too, but no sound out.
>      > >
>      > > It looked like the clock and everything was performing properly
>      > but no
>      > > tone out of the tone generator.
>      > >
>      > > Soldering is easy for me, so if you can point me to the correct
>      > > component, i should be able to make it happy again, and that
>      > would be
>      > > awesome!
>      > >
>      > > thanks again for your info so far.
>      > >
>      > > Marcus
>      > > On Sunday, July 18, 2004, at 06:03 PM, x x wrote:
>      > >
>      > > > It is one toshiba chip that needs to be replaced.
>      > > > It is mentioned in the service manual should all work but no
>      > sound be
>      > > > heard from the poly 800. Its on the main board. The number of the
>      > > chip
>      > > > is on my schematics . I cant gurentee it but it is in the service
>      > > > notes. apperntly enough of the same prob happend that this was a
>      > > major
>      > > > note. Im not saying this is or isnt .But Ive bought a few poly
>      > 800s
>      > > > and its one or the other chips for the output control to the
>     sound
>      > > > source of the poly 800....
>      > > > If interested Ill get the part number and email the service
>      > note. If
>      > > > you can solder very finely its not a big chip. I dont know if I
>      > have
>      > > a
>      > > > spare im pretty much building up parts to keep for me when this
>      > > > happens again. SinceI have three and I bought some extras let
>      > me see
>      > > > what I find out when I look through my parts bin I collect
>     toshiba
>      > > > chips and major processors for the poly .Im now starting to
>      > with the
>      > > > juno. I will sale poly 800 keys now and some other stuff .This
>      > will
>      > > > also change I bid on every broken one I can find...
>      > > > Peace
>      > > > Alien
>      > > >
>      > > >
>      > > > Marcus Wilson wrote:
>      > > >
>      > > > mines a poly800 yeah
>      > > >
>      > > > all works for midi control
>      > > > no tone generation tho
>      > > >
>      > > > looking for a working tone generator for it
>      > > >
>      > > > Marcus
>      > > > On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 09:54 AM, x x wrote:
>      > > >
>      > > > > is that a poly 800?
>      > > > >
>      > > > > Marcus Wilson wrote:
>      > > > >
>      > > > > have you got any tone generator chips you could send me?
>      > > > >
>      > > > > my poly works on the digital side, all the patches store etc,
>      > midi
>      > > > out
>      > > > > works, just nothing comes out of the tone generator!
>      > > > >
>      > > > > ive put a cro over the data lines, and signals and clock all
>      > appear
>      > > > to
>      > > > > be working, just that chip has no output on the tone lines.
>      > > > >
>      > > > > any help available?
>      > > > >
>      > > > > best regards,
>      > > > >
>      > > > > Marcus in Oz
>      > > > > On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 06:45 AM, x x wrote:
>      > > > >
>      > > > > > I collect dead poly 800s////
>      > > > > >
>      > > > > > skunkride wrote:
>      > > > > >
>      > > > > >
>      > > > > > Nice one Julio ! Gives me hope about my dead Poly....
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