EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

highlandsource wrote:

> hi,
>
> having heard mike manieri (sp?) bend notes on the vibes i'm
> always left wondering..how he do dat?

You use a special hard rubber ended mallet in one hand and a regular one in
the other. You strike the note regularly with the regular mallet and hold
down the sustain pedal. You then press down hard on the note with the rubber
mallet near the bottom of the bar where the string runs through the note.
And while the note is sustaining you move the rubbert mallet slowly up the
length of the note to create the bent effect. It works better lower on the
instrument because then notes ar physically larger and you have more
distance to move the pressed in mallet up. In regular playing situations of
course you can do it with two of the same regular mallets. It's not as
predominant an effect though, although more practical if it is in the middle
of a passage of notes.


--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

--- In exs-users@y..., Eli Krantzberg <elik@c...> wrote:

thanks for the info, i can sleep easier now ;-)

i guess the plan to glue a mod wheel onto my xylophone won't 
work then.

andy.

highlandsource wrote:

>
> thanks for the info, i can sleep easier now ;-)

Glad to be able to act as a sleep inducer.

>
> i guess the plan to glue a mod wheel onto my xylophone won't
> work then.

It'd probably be easier to just load a sample of it into EXS (bringing
things back on topic) and use your midi mod wheel. But it's not nearly as
much fun.



--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

I am maybe a bit slow, but is "Eli's vibes" still online somewhere ?

Thanx :-)

Raphael.

--- In exs-users@y..., Eli Krantzberg <elik@c...> wrote:
> highlandsource wrote:
> 
> > hi,
> >
> > having heard mike manieri (sp?) bend notes on the vibes i'm
> > always left wondering..how he do dat?
> 
> You use a special hard rubber ended mallet in one hand and a regular 
one in
> the other. You strike the note regularly with the regular mallet and 
hold
> down the sustain pedal. You then press down hard on the note with 
the rubber
> mallet near the bottom of the bar where the string runs through the 
note.
> And while the note is sustaining you move the rubbert mallet slowly 
up the
> length of the note to create the bent effect. It works better lower 
on the
> instrument because then notes ar physically larger and you have more
> distance to move the pressed in mallet up. In regular playing 
situations of
> course you can do it with two of the same regular mallets. It's not 
as
> predominant an effect though, although more practical if it is in 
the middle
> of a passage of notes.
> 
> 
> --
> Eli Krantzberg
> Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
> http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

Thanks for this enlightening info Eli.
Having listened and analysed best I could Mainieri's playing, I had 
come to the conclusion that he used one of those old digital delays 
with a pedal connected to the speed pot(Roland made those). I did 
experiment with those and got the same results. Check out the Blue 
Montreux albums, perhaps that is what is happening on those.

Paul

Rapha\ufffdl TIDAS wrote:

> I am maybe a bit slow, but is "Eli's vibes" still online somewhere ?
>

You can find them at:

 http://www.chickensys.com/exs/


--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

gripette1a wrote:

>
> Thanks for this enlightening info Eli.
> Having listened and analysed best I could Mainieri's playing, I had
> come to the conclusion that he used one of those old digital delays
> with a pedal connected to the speed pot(Roland made those). I did
> experiment with those and got the same results. Check out the Blue
> Montreux albums, perhaps that is what is happening on those.
>

Hi Paul,

I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm not that familiar with Mike Manieri's
playing. I've heard some of the Steps Ahead stuff in passing, but that's
about it. He very well could be using some delay effects. I was describing
the traditional method of "bending" a note on vibes. I've been in the mood
to buy some new CDs lately. I'll look for these Blue Montreux albums you
mention. Thanks.



--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

Re: Eli's vibes

Hi Eli,

Is it Me or....?

I downloaded your vibe and messed with it. It has a nice attack and 
seems definitely musical enough. However, it sounds almost as if 
there is a flute-like sound layered in with the vibe, making it sound 
a wee bit distorted. Is it in there or are my speakers getting ready 
to blow?

Bob

> You can find them at:
> 
>  http://www.chickensys.com/exs/
> 
> 
> --
> Eli Krantzberg
> Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
> http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

--- In exs-users@y..., Eli Krantzberg <elik@c...> wrote:
> splugapass wrote:
> 
> > Re: Eli's vibes
> >
> > Hi Eli,
> >
> > Is it Me or....?
> >
> > I downloaded your vibe and messed with it. It has a nice attack 
and
> > seems definitely musical enough. However, it sounds almost as if
> > there is a flute-like sound layered in with the vibe, making it 
sound
> > a wee bit distorted. Is it in there or are my speakers getting 
ready
> > to blow?
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I think it's something on your system. They are pure samples of a 
Musser M55
> vibraphone (with vibrato on). There has been nothing added to or 
layered
> with them. Is it possible your gain staging is off somewhere and it 
is
> clipping either internally in Logic or externally on outboard gear?

OK, thanks Eli

Bob

splugapass wrote:

> Re: Eli's vibes
>
> Hi Eli,
>
> Is it Me or....?
>
> I downloaded your vibe and messed with it. It has a nice attack and
> seems definitely musical enough. However, it sounds almost as if
> there is a flute-like sound layered in with the vibe, making it sound
> a wee bit distorted. Is it in there or are my speakers getting ready
> to blow?

Hi Bob,

I think it's something on your system. They are pure samples of a Musser M55
vibraphone (with vibrato on). There has been nothing added to or layered
with them. Is it possible your gain staging is off somewhere and it is
clipping either internally in Logic or externally on outboard gear?

--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com