Piano Sample
2002-01-15 by gordonmurrison
Can anyone recommend a good piano sample CD with a sound suitable for jazz? How about the one in the ProSamples range? (I like the look of it because it is cheap!!!). Many Thanks, Gordon
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Piano Sample
Re: Piano Sample
2002-01-15 by highlandsource
--- In exs-users@y..., "gordonmurrison" <gordon.murrison@t...> wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good piano sample CD with a sound suitable for > jazz? How about the one in the ProSamples range? (I like the look of > it because it is cheap!!!). --- ha! i fell for the "pro" name and the price equation too! i installed it, played for an hour or two, then trashed it....does that answer yer question?..:-) ive read some posters here who like it, but for me, nope. its usable for an effect i guess - a long sustained bass note, a little riff here and there, those kinds of uses. if its jazz youre after i suspect you'd find it fairly lame too. as for any other cd's, i dunno. i got to a point where no piano sound cd's or modules were cutting it so i've simply stopped using piano sounds! (unless in a decent studio with - gasp - a REAL piano :) andy
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-15 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
To add to this question, what is the best piano available for under $300 in a small package, whether hardware or software? I've heard good things about Nanopiano, but not in a detailed sense. My favorite piano sound is a real 12-foot Yamaha Grand--the best I've ever heard. I'd love to not have to worry about it, but the truth is I really feel I need to be recording piano parts. Tracking the real thing in an expensive studio is not an option. Moreover, I really need it in MIDI format. -Jer
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> From: "gordonmurrison" <gordon.murrison@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:27:42 -0000 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [exs] Piano Sample > > Can anyone recommend a good piano sample CD with a sound suitable for > jazz? How about the one in the ProSamples range? (I like the look of > it because it is cheap!!!). > > Many Thanks, > > Gordon > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-15 by Paul Martinson
Wizoo and Steinberg just came out with a VST plug in called The Grand. I heard some on line demos and it sounds very good and the specs look real good. I am very curious about it and have it on my list to get some time. Check that out: http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/plugins/thegrand/index.phtml?sid=04633336 >From: <HELP@...> >Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:46:30 -0500 > >To add to this question, what is the best piano available for under $300 in >a small package, whether hardware or software? I've heard good things about >Nanopiano, but not in a detailed sense. My favorite piano sound is a real >12-foot Yamaha Grand--the best I've ever heard. I'd love to not have to >worry about it, but the truth is I really feel I need to be recording piano >parts. Tracking the real thing in an expensive studio is not an option. >Moreover, I really need it in MIDI format. -Jer > > > From: "gordonmurrison" <gordon.murrison@...> > > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:27:42 -0000 > > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [exs] Piano Sample > > > > Can anyone recommend a good piano sample CD with a sound suitable for > > jazz? How about the one in the ProSamples range? (I like the look of > > it because it is cheap!!!). > > > > Many Thanks, > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
RE: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-15 by Richmond, James (James) ** CTR **
Well going over your budget by a lil bit you could try finding a second hand JV1010. It has the Session board built in, which is quite good. Failing that then I have seen ALesis QSR's going quite cheap over here (London)... around £250-£300 second hand. A couple of Piano patches are quite useable. Rgds, James Richmond >To add to this question, what is the best piano available for under $300 in >a small package, whether hardware or software?
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-15 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
Thank you, Paul. This is exactly what I had in mind! It looks very appealing.
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> From: "Paul Martinson" <paul_martinson@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:03:41 +0000 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample > > Wizoo and Steinberg just came out with a VST plug in called The Grand. I > heard some on line demos and it sounds very good and the specs look real > good. I am very curious about it and have it on my list to get some time. > Check that out: > http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/plugins/thegrand/index.phtml?sid=04633336 > > >> From: <HELP@...> >> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample >> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:46:30 -0500 >> >> To add to this question, what is the best piano available for under $300 in >> a small package, whether hardware or software? I've heard good things about >> Nanopiano, but not in a detailed sense. My favorite piano sound is a real >> 12-foot Yamaha Grand--the best I've ever heard. I'd love to not have to >> worry about it, but the truth is I really feel I need to be recording piano >> parts. Tracking the real thing in an expensive studio is not an option. >> Moreover, I really need it in MIDI format. -Jer >> >>> From: "gordonmurrison" <gordon.murrison@...> >>> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:27:42 -0000 >>> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: [exs] Piano Sample >>> >>> Can anyone recommend a good piano sample CD with a sound suitable for >>> jazz? How about the one in the ProSamples range? (I like the look of >>> it because it is cheap!!!). >>> >>> Many Thanks, >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-15 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
Oh my God! The demo is astounding! I would have thought it was the real deal had I not been told in advance. It's almost to perfect sounding to be real. That's good enough for me. It sounds like someone spent weeks getting the mics just right, then found the perfect mix engineer--two things that are hard to come by in and of themselves, let alone a great sounding piano. I can't wait to get my hands on this!
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> From: "Paul Martinson" <paul_martinson@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:03:41 +0000 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample > > Wizoo and Steinberg just came out with a VST plug in called The Grand. I > heard some on line demos and it sounds very good and the specs look real > good. I am very curious about it and have it on my list to get some time. > Check that out: > http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/plugins/thegrand/index.phtml?sid=04633336 > > >> From: <HELP@...> >> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample >> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:46:30 -0500 >> >> To add to this question, what is the best piano available for under $300 in >> a small package, whether hardware or software? I've heard good things about >> Nanopiano, but not in a detailed sense. My favorite piano sound is a real >> 12-foot Yamaha Grand--the best I've ever heard. I'd love to not have to >> worry about it, but the truth is I really feel I need to be recording piano >> parts. Tracking the real thing in an expensive studio is not an option. >> Moreover, I really need it in MIDI format. -Jer >> >>> From: "gordonmurrison" <gordon.murrison@...> >>> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:27:42 -0000 >>> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: [exs] Piano Sample >>> >>> Can anyone recommend a good piano sample CD with a sound suitable for >>> jazz? How about the one in the ProSamples range? (I like the look of >>> it because it is cheap!!!). >>> >>> Many Thanks, >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-16 by monsdrum
--- In exs-users@y..., <HELP@M...> wrote: > Oh my God! The demo is astounding! I would have thought it was the real deal > had I not been told in advance. It's almost to perfect sounding to be real. > That's good enough for me. It sounds like someone spent weeks getting the > mics just right, then found the perfect mix engineer--two things that are > hard to come by in and of themselves, let alone a great sounding piano. I > can't wait to get my hands on this! I can certainly wait. This is one of the better piano samples I have heard, agreed, but I would never be in doubt that this is actually a sample and not a genuine Yamaha grand. The problem is, as far as I can see, that a velocity curve of only 128 steps (counting from zero), and only measured on the key's speed is far from adequate to cover the whole range of sounds an acoustic piano can produce. I could play five different keystrokes that would all come out at a velocity level of 127, but would still sound very differently on an acoustic piano. The only thing that still sounds like an acoustic piano to me is actually an acoustic piano, so I guess what I have to do is learn to record this as well as I can, and still keep practising them scales, to continue being a good pianist for my recordings. Technology can do a lot, but to my opinion it cannot yet reproduce a piano satisfyingly. regards monsdrum
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-16 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
I suppose you are right; however, I think it will work for my recordings. I believe that the demo is over-produced anyway and could account for some of the lack of soul in the recording. Of course, there is no replacement for the real thing, but this is the most tolerable fake piano I have ever heard. The real test will be playing it myself. But I'm often surprised how comfortable I feel in a piano program that has realistic action, and not many programs can give me this feeling. "The Grand" probably does it best.
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> From: "monsdrum" <monsdrum@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:03:44 -0000 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample > > --- In exs-users@y..., <HELP@M...> wrote: >> Oh my God! The demo is astounding! I would have thought it was the > real deal >> had I not been told in advance. It's almost to perfect sounding to > be real. >> That's good enough for me. It sounds like someone spent weeks > getting the >> mics just right, then found the perfect mix engineer--two things > that are >> hard to come by in and of themselves, let alone a great sounding > piano. I >> can't wait to get my hands on this! > > I can certainly wait. This is one of the better piano samples I have > heard, agreed, but I would never be in doubt that this is actually a > sample and not a genuine Yamaha grand. The problem is, as far as I > can see, that a velocity curve of only 128 steps (counting from > zero), and only measured on the key's speed is far from adequate to > cover the whole range of sounds an acoustic piano can produce. I > could play five different keystrokes that would all come out at a > velocity level of 127, but would still sound very differently on an > acoustic piano. The only thing that still sounds like an acoustic > piano to me is actually an acoustic piano, so I guess what I have to > do is learn to record this as well as I can, and still keep > practising them scales, to continue being a good pianist for my > recordings. Technology can do a lot, but to my opinion it cannot yet > reproduce a piano satisfyingly. > > regards > > monsdrum > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-20 by Dan Chapman
Hi all, I tried to play the demo, but it came out as digital noise. I'm using a Mac. Anyone having the same problems? Dan Chapman on 1/15/02 8:03 AM, Paul Martinson at paul_martinson@... wrote: Wizoo and Steinberg just came out with a VST plug in called The Grand. I heard some on line demos and it sounds very good and the specs look real good. I am very curious about it and have it on my list to get some time. Check that out: http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/plugins/thegrand/index.phtml?sid=046333 36 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-20 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
No sounds good here, and I'm on Mac.
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> From: Dan Chapman <d-chapman@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:07:24 -0800 > To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample > > Hi all, > > I tried to play the demo, but it came out as digital noise. I'm using a > Mac. Anyone having the same problems? > > Dan Chapman > > > on 1/15/02 8:03 AM, Paul Martinson at paul_martinson@... wrote: > > Wizoo and Steinberg just came out with a VST plug in called The Grand. I > heard some on line demos and it sounds very good and the specs look real > good. I am very curious about it and have it on my list to get some time. > Check that out: > http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/plugins/thegrand/index.phtml?sid=046333 > 36 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
Re: [exs] Piano Sample
2002-01-20 by Vinco
No problem on my side. I have a mac and the link works well. Maybe try to download it on your hard drive first. Vincent Le dimanche 20 janvier 2002, à 04:24 PM, <HELP@...> a écrit :
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> No sounds good here, and I'm on Mac. > >> From: Dan Chapman <d-chapman@...> >> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:07:24 -0800 >> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [exs] Piano Sample >> >> Hi all, >> >> I tried to play the demo, but it came out as digital noise. I'm >> using a >> Mac. Anyone having the same problems? >> >> Dan Chapman >> >> >> on 1/15/02 8:03 AM, Paul Martinson at paul_martinson@... wrote: >> >> Wizoo and Steinberg just came out with a VST plug in called The >> Grand. I >> heard some on line demos and it sounds very good and the specs look >> real >> good. I am very curious about it and have it on my list to get some >> time. >> Check that out: >> http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/plugins/thegrand/index.phtml?sid=046333 >> 36 >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >