EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

yael wrote:

>
> I respect a lot all the job of those companies which bring
> us usefull tool, that's why, if u'r a professionnal, u have to buy the
> original CD if u use it in a Pro Job.

What if your not professional and not using it on a pro job, but only using it
for your own personal non professional projects? And based on the cost to
profit ratio you wouldn't normally buy these CDs.  Of course it is still
illegal, but is the crime then as "bad"?


--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

yael wrote:

>
> If u'r not professionnal, I mean u don't earn money with u'r music, u can do
> what u want !

I don't think the sample CD companies would agree with this. I don't think that
they have a policy of allowing non income generating project studios to use to
use their products at no charge.

By this reasoning though, how much income must you generate from your studio
before you begin to lose sleep at night over using unpaid for sample CDs? $100?
$500? $1,000, $5,000?

>
> I don't know any report of any TRIAL against any kind of user.

That doesn't mean it is not illegal though.



--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

--- In exs-users@y..., Eli Krantzberg <elik@c...> wrote:
> yael wrote:
> 
> >
> > I respect a lot all the job of those companies which bring
> > us usefull tool, that's why, if u'r a professionnal, u have to buy the
> > original CD if u use it in a Pro Job.
> 
> What if your not professional and not using it on a pro job, but only using it
> for your own personal non professional projects? And based on the cost to
> profit ratio you wouldn't normally buy these CDs.  Of course it is still
> illegal, but is the crime then as "bad"?
> 
> 

Interesting question. You're attaching a moral judgement - good or bad 
- to a question of legal entitlement and in this case the two are 
exclusive. It's like differentiating between 'being pregnant' vs. 
'being a little bit pregnant'. You either have a licencse for the 
sample cd or you do not.

In the privacy of your own home nobody is likely to care - but you 
still don't have a licencse. If you can live with that, hypothetically 
speaking of course, hey - more power to you. But that won't change the 
fact that you're technically in violation of a licencsing agreement as 
soon as you attempt to profit in any way from the original material. 
While its unlikely charges would be filed - you shouldn't be surprised 
when the court finds against you ;-)

regards,

Jon Levinson

p.s. - this is all hypothetical of course - I don't mean 'you' as in 
Eli K.

jondl_2000 wrote:

>
> In the privacy of your own home nobody is likely to care - but you
> still don't have a licencse. If you can live with that, hypothetically
> speaking of course, hey - more power to you. But that won't change the
> fact that you're technically in violation of a licencsing agreement as
> soon as you attempt to profit in any way from the original material.

I think you'd be in violation of the licensing agreement well before you "attempt to profit from
it". Even using it in a manner not attempting to generate profit is illegal.



--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

--- In exs-users@y..., Eli Krantzberg <elik@c...> wrote:
> jondl_2000 wrote:
> 
> >
> > In the privacy of your own home nobody is likely to care - but you
> > still don't have a licencse. If you can live with that, hypothetically
> > speaking of course, hey - more power to you. But that won't change the
> > fact that you're technically in violation of a licencsing agreement as
> > soon as you attempt to profit in any way from the original material.
> 
> I think you'd be in violation of the licensing agreement well before you "attempt to profit from
> it". Even using it in a manner not attempting to generate profit is illegal.
> 
> 

I think you are correct - I should have taken an extra minute to 
rephrase that.

regards,

Jon