EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Message posted by Jay Asher <jay@...>:

I was at Kirk's studio yesterday pklaying this and all I can say is "Wow!".

It sounds great in the cpu efficent EXS24 and Kirk has added a lot from his
upcoiming Ruby library. At these prices any EXS24 user should have this
library.

http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/khsogigaork2.html

Jay,

How wet/dry is this product? Some of the demos I've heard are so over 
processed that it's hard to tell. With regard to ambience, would you say 
that this KH product is dry like VSL? As wet as EWQLSO Gold? I realize that 
this is hard to describe, but please try. I'm definitely interested.

Thanks,
-Mark

On Sep 2, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Mark Falchook wrote:

> Jay,
>
> How wet/dry is this product? Some of the demos I've heard are so over
> processed that it's hard to tell. With regard to ambience, would  
> you say
> that this KH product is dry like VSL? As wet as EWQLSO Gold? I  
> realize that
> this is hard to describe, but please try. I'm definitely interested.
>
> Thanks,
> -Mark
>
> __._,_._



Hi Mark.
maybe I can help.  I did one of the demos on Kirk's site.  It is  
neither wet or dry but somewhere in
between.  The samples were recorded in a "FAR" position but have to  
trailing reverb apart from a little
on pizz and staccato sounds.  Otherwise you can safely put your own  
reverb on it.

The demo I did had some tweaking done by Kirk.  I would have done it  
differently however so I can see where
it might be hard to tell.
Thanks,

Chris Caouette
www.chriscaouette.com

Message posted by Jay Asher <jay@...>:

Chris beat me to it! (Nice demo, btw, Chris.)

Yes, wetter than VSL, dryer than EWQL which IMHO makes it a great library either by itself or to blend with others.

In a message dated 9/3/06 1:22:37 PM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com writes:
> How wet/dry is this product? Some of the demos I've heard are so over
> processed that it's hard to tell.
> 

I couldnt agree more.   I really realy wanted to   be impressed by 
the sound but wassnt.   Although I own EWQLSO and VSL I'm always 
looking for something else to add to the mix but it just didnt grab 
me.   The IDEA is totally awesome though, a light processor weight 
orchestral library for the EXs24 that is cost effective and (more 
or less) complete.

-Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com

Hi Terry

How do you like EWQLSO and VSL?  Do you prefer one or the other?

How are they on the processor load, do you use multiple computers or  
run all in one box?

Thanks!
- Dave


David Gordon
Composer/Producer
Sequoia Records

http://www.sequoiarecords.com

> > How wet/dry is this product? Some of the demos
> I've heard are so over
> > processed that it's hard to tell.
> > 
--- Huud@... wrote:
> 
> I couldnt agree more.   I really realy wanted to  
> be impressed by 
> the sound but wassnt.   Although I own EWQLSO and
> VSL I'm always 
> looking for something else to add to the mix but it
> just didnt grab 
> me.   The IDEA is totally awesome though, a light
> processor weight 
> orchestral library for the EXs24 that is cost
> effective and (more 
> or less) complete.
> 
> -Terry Michael Huud
> www.Music4TheMovies.com

I gotta say I was laughing at the legato thing that
was going on with the solo clarinet. It sounded like a
silly little squeek between all notes. I'm using VSL
OPUS 1 and it's legato is much more convincing. Kirk's
recordings sounded really clean to me, but I'd put the
library in the camp of Motu's MSI and the newly
reworked Miroslav, both of which seem to me to be a
cut below VSL and EWQLSO (although I do use some
sounds from MSI and even GPO...). But if I had to
choose one library I'd flip a coin between EWQLSO and
VSL. EWQLSO for huevos, VSL for realistic legato.

My $.02

Robert

--- David Gordon <music-pro@...> wrote:

> Hi Terry
> 
> How do you like EWQLSO and VSL?  Do you prefer one
> or the other?
> 
> How are they on the processor load, do you use
> multiple computers or  
> run all in one box?
> 
> Thanks!
> - Dave

#I'm not Terry, but See my other post for the first
part of your question - and to chime in on your other
part about CPU loads, I mostly use both those
libraries on outboard computers. I have MSI, GPO,
Complete Classical, and my legacy Roland/Akai library
running on my main G5 through EXSp24 and Kontakt2 from
within Digital Performer. (I'm lurking and checking
out Logic...)

Robert

> --- David Gordon <music-pro@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi Terry
>>
>> How do you like EWQLSO and VSL?  Do you prefer one
>> or the other?
>>
>> How are they on the processor load, do you use
>> multiple computers or
>> run all in one box?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> - Dave

On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:38 AM, Anthropy wrote:

>
>
> #I'm not Terry, but See my other post for the first
> part of your question - and to chime in on your other
> part about CPU loads, I mostly use both those
> libraries on outboard computers. I have MSI, GPO,
> Complete Classical, and my legacy Roland/Akai library
> running on my main G5 through EXSp24 and Kontakt2 from
> within Digital Performer. (I'm lurking and checking
> out Logic...)
>
> Robert

Robert

Sorry for getting your name wrong!

I searched for your other post but could not find it.

Would you point me at the prior message, or repost it?

If you'd rather not - no worries.

Thanks
Dave

<<Hi Terry

How do you like EWQLSO and VSL?  Do you prefer one or the other?

How are they on the processor load, do you use multiple computers
or run all in one box?>>

DAve,

I love both.   Although there are many times I need a type of
string sound and cant find it in EWQLSO so I go through my VSL
and usually find it.   I think I needed   Flautando strings once
for a sci-fi show and found some great combinations in VSL.
What I like about VSL is that it runs very nicely on my EXs24.
the EXs24 is a very efficient sample player and works very well
inside Logics environment. The EWQLSO is another story.   I had
a second   PC computer configured just for the EWQLSO and may
eventually have another made to help break that library up even
more.   (i.e. strings on one computer/ woodwinds and brass on
another and maybe percussion/ivory piano on a third?)   At the
moment I have EWQLSO running better inside V-stack>Kontakt 2 on
my PC than it does on my Mac although if you have a really top
end mac and enable DFD you shouldnt have any problems.   DFD
makes the sample STREAM for better performance.
If your serious about writing big opus's with giant arrangements
then mutiple computers is the *only* way to go.   (imho of
course...)

PS/Note:   Oh and you dont have to spend a FORTUNE on the PC you
have running EWQLSO.   An Athlon 3500+ 3.5 gigahtz is fine and
their not a fortune although you'll spend a littel more on hard
drive space since most orchestral libraries take up room.   When I
had a PC build JUST FOR all of my softsynths- well that was
another story.   THOSE require really fast processing speeds and
LESS hard drive space...

-Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com