EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I've fixed one of the problems I was having. It would seem that in the 
translation of a giga file to exs, some of the samples of the 
instrument had had their root key set to C-2, when they should have 
been 7 octaves higher! The click I was hearing was the sample being 
played very fast. FTR, it was the solo snare from the G-Town free 
percussion library.

I still haven't found the answer to the 1st problem, clicks at the 
beginning of a sample (you still hear the whole sample) that are only 
heard through EXS, not Logic's audio editor. The files, in this case, 
are all the instruments in the Bass Trombone section of the SAM 
Trombones collection.

Ned

On Sep 30, 2004, at 18:01, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:

>
> Hi group,
>
> I'm stumped!
>
> I've got clicks coming at me. In one case (1), they are at the
> beginning of a given instrument's samples, and in another case, (2)
> they are the only thing that plays back when I hit a key - the sample
> never plays through. In this later case, some of the instrument samples
> are fine, others only click.
>

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Il giorno 01 ott 2004, alle 16:32, Ned Bouhalassa ha scritto:

> I've fixed one of the problems I was having. It would seem that in the
> translation of a giga file to exs, some of the samples of the
> instrument had had their root key set to C-2, when they should have
> been 7 octaves higher! The click I was hearing was the sample being
> played very fast. FTR, it was the solo snare from the G-Town free
> percussion library.

Ops, that was the meaning!
I'm experiencing this and more heavy problems with M. Vitous Library. 
Some samples have evident cuts, others sounds completely different 
(other notes or double notes) and sometimes are unusable.
>
> I still haven't found the answer to the 1st problem, clicks at the
> beginning of a sample (you still hear the whole sample) that are only
> heard through EXS, not Logic's audio editor. The files, in this case,
> are all the instruments in the Bass Trombone section of the SAM
> Trombones collection.

I'm changing all the settings I can manually (luckily I found problems 
in very simple patches...)

Ciao,

Danilo

At 07:32 AM 10/01/2004, you wrote:
>I still haven't found the answer to the 1st problem, clicks at the
>beginning of a sample (you still hear the whole sample) that are only
>heard through EXS, not Logic's audio editor. The files, in this case,
>are all the instruments in the Bass Trombone section of the SAM
>Trombones collection.

Did you say these were Giga imports? I've experienced similar problems with 
the imported GOS library, and found that the individual translated voices 
often have unexplainable sample offsets in the EXS instrument, as high as 
2000 samples. Reducing or deleting those can help, as can fiddling with the 
attack portion of the ADSR. I have the EXS version of the SAM Trombones. 
I'll try to check it out on my system.

On Oct 1, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:
>
> I still haven't found the answer to the 1st problem, clicks at the
> beginning of a sample (you still hear the whole sample) that are only
> heard through EXS, not Logic's audio editor. The files, in this case,
> are all the instruments in the Bass Trombone section of the SAM
> Trombones collection.

Hi Ned,
have you tried using the "update zones info from audio files" menu 
functions found in the Exs Instrument editor?

Andrea

Andrea,

That was it!!! Thank you very, very much!!!

Would you mind explaining what that function does exactly?

Have a great weekend,

Ned


On Oct 2, 2004, at 7:32, Andrea at Redmatica wrote:

>  Hi Ned,
>  have you tried using the "update zones info from audio files" menu
>  functions found in the Exs Instrument editor?
>
>  Andrea

>  On Oct 1, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:
>  >
>  > I still haven't found the answer to the 1st problem, clicks at the
>  > beginning of a sample (you still hear the whole sample) that are 
> only
>  > heard through EXS, not Logic's audio editor.



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At 08:51 AM 10/2/04 -0400, you wrote:

>> >  > I still haven't found the answer to the 1st problem, clicks at the
>> >  > beginning of a sample (you still hear the whole sample) that are
>> > only
>> >  > heard through EXS, not Logic's audio editor.

> >  have you tried using the "update zones info from audio files" menu
> >  functions found in the Exs Instrument editor?

>That was it!!! Thank you very, very much!!!
>Would you mind explaining what that function does exactly?

Among other things, it updates the "sampled data offset" parameter in the 
EXS file. I noticed it with the files as well - I know that SAM made the 
mistake on early versions of substituting samples and not updating the .exs 
file.

The parameter simply tells the EXS where in the sample file to start 
playing the data. It can cause a click by starting the data prior or after 
where it's supposed to.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

Thanks for the clarification Garth.

;-)

Ned

On Oct 2, 2004, at 10:35, Garth Hjelte wrote:

>  Among other things, it updates the "sampled data offset" parameter in 
> the
>  EXS file. I noticed it with the files as well - I know that SAM made 
> the
>  mistake on early versions of substituting samples and not updating 
> the .exs
>  file.
>
>  The parameter simply tells the EXS where in the sample file to start
>  playing the data. It can cause a click by starting the data prior or 
> after
>  where it's supposed to.


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