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Re: [exs] Re: New patch: Congaloop

2002-02-12 by Bjorn Elfstrom

Hmm,

Seems to me that you ("HELP" & Teddy, primarily) are speaking about apples
and oranges. AFAI understood Teddy was speaking about lifting samples (vs.
re-recording them) from published records. Therefore his conclusion that
it's OK as long as you don't publish it seems valid to me. You have, after
all, bought the original work and you are allowed to store it on other media
than the original for *personal* use. This, of course, assuming that you
*did* buy the legit piece of work in the first place ;-).

'HELP' was OTOH speaking about samples specifically made for using in
compositional work. And here, again AFAI understand, you cross IP
infringement line the minute you copy, store, or use the stuff (that you
have not bought the right to use), even it it'd be just for "personal" use.

So, two very different scenarios there, methinks.

rgds,

Bj\ufffdrn Elfstr\ufffdm

['HELP' argued:]
> Compelling argument, although sample vendors will no doubt disagree. You
do
> a good job of articulating a strong argument however. Thanks for your
> perspective.

[Teddy argued:]

> > actually, as far as I know sorenv is right. I am published by EMI and I
have
> > to clear all the samples I use on song demos with them. If I use a
sample in
> > a song that I lifted I have to list that sample on my song form so EMI
can
> > clear it IF IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO GET RELEASED. Do you
think
> > they clear every sample I used? hell no, that would take too much
manpower.
> > They only have to clear them when something's getting released. I also
doubt
> > this applies to single shot samples, only phrases longer than 3 or 4
notes.

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