eml synthesizers

Does anyone understand the numbering of all the
EML 400 bits? Does 400 refer to just the sequencer
or the system? Does the double width sequencer
have a different name? Which is the 416?
I've seen half width and full width versions of the
synth section - the half width one in the advert
is called 401, but what is the full width one called?

BTW, I have a schematic for the synth section, but
does anyone have a schematic or manual for the
sequencer they'd care to share?

Thanks


Steve



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At 01:31 PM 3/1/2005, you wrote:

>Does anyone understand the numbering of all the
>EML 400 bits? Does 400 refer to just the sequencer
>or the system? Does the double width sequencer
>have a different name? Which is the 416?
>I've seen half width and full width versions of the
>synth section - the half width one in the advert
>is called 401, but what is the full width one called?

I got a partial explanation at another list:


"The model 400 was basically just the power supply, clock, triggering,
quantizer and I/O in the left 1/2 of the main body panel with only 16 stages
X 3 rows in the right half of the lid panel. The right half of the main
panel and the left half of the lid panel was blank. They were asking $950.00
for that configuration.

The model 401 was the synthesizer section they integrated into the right
half of the main body panel. It still only had the 3X16 half panel in the
lid. They asked $1,300.00 for this configuration dubbed the 400/401.

The model 416 was an additional (extra) 3x16 stages shoved into the left
half of the lid. They were asking $1,700.00 for the full blown 400/401/416
conglomeration. Which translates into: The basic sequencer control stuff
with a 3X16 sequence control, The addition of the synthesizer section so you
wouldn't have to tie up other gear to use it, and an additional 3X16 stages
to add capacity and fill in the remaining hole."


Yeah it's confusing and to further complicate I think EML changed their own
definitions of what the models numbers meant over the years. According to
the above, the proper way to refer to a fully loaded unit, that's the synth
and the 2 side-by side chainable 16 stage sequencers is to call it a
400/401/416. But I've seen the full version just called a 400/401 or even
just a 400. I own what I think is a later version of a full
sequencer/synth unit and it says "EML 400" on the synth side and over both
sequencer sections. So maybe at some point EML realized the best way to
market this thing was as the fully loaded piece, so they just called the
whole thing a 400...?? Well...whatever. Just make sure if your buying one
that you get a good look at it, don't go by model numbers. Also notice
that with most EML gear the serial numbers don't seem to follow any
chronology or logic at all...and some time there's no S/N at all.


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Mike

> I got a partial explanation at another list:

Many thanks - it's good to know that I'm not the only
one who's confused by it all.

> The model 401 was the synthesizer section they integrated
> into the right half of the main body panel.

I've seen two versions of the synth section - the half panel
version advertised as the 401 and a full width version that
looks more like a 500. Did the wide version have a different
number?

There seem to be very few good pictures of the 400...



Steve

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>I've seen two versions of the synth section - the half panel
>version advertised as the 401 and a full width version that
>looks more like a 500. Did the wide version have a different
>number?

The only model numbers I've ever seen applied to the synth and sequencer
combo are 400, 401, and 416. The full wide synth version as you call it is
the more "common" version. I've seen it sold on Ebay many times and I own 2
myself. I've never seen the half panel model 401 synth anywhere except in
some pictures like the one in our own photo archive. Clearly the full panel
synth and the model 500 are related. The 500 has the keyboard and it has
more options, but the control layout and synth architecture are very similar.

>There seem to be very few good pictures of the 400...

There are some in our photo section and if you check out the links section
there are websites that have a few more . One day I'll get around to a
digital camera and I'll post some better photos of my own little menagerie.
If any one else here would care to upload some nice pics of the
sequencer/synth or any other EML gear, there's plenty of room.


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What a sleepy little group
anyway I recently picked up the DVD of Frank Zappa's Dub Room Special.
It's a wonderful video presentation of 2 different shows from the early
80's along with some added clay-mation and other effects.
I can't identify the keyboard player but an EML 101 is featured on a couple
of tunes. (It's not George Duke although he appears in one of the shows).
There's also an Arp Odyssey featured in both shows. Great playing by all of
course. Ruth Underwood is so incredible on percussion. Any Zappa fans here
will appreciate this DVD and it's a treat to see and hear these synths in
their prime.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.


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Airing a few times on Showtime. Worth seeing if you haven't yet.

http://www.sho.com/site/schedules/product_page.do?seriesid=0&episodeid=128981


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it looks like US is center of Universe, and I am an alien.
This is what I saw on this webpage:

"We at Showtime Online express our apologies; however, these pages are intended for access only from within the United States."

is it available somewhere else? I'd love to see it.

Roman

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At 03:55 AM 3/13/2007, you wrote:

>it looks like US is center of Universe, and I am an alien.
>This is what I saw on this webpage:
>
>"We at Showtime Online express our apologies; however, these pages
>are intended for access only from within the United States."
>
>is it available somewhere else? I'd love to see it.
>
>Roman

Well I just did a search for it at Amazon and it's available on DVD
in the US too. Other countries use different video systems so a DVD
for use in the US might not play properly for you. You could check to
see if it's available in the right format for your system.

Here's the Amazon link (if you have to copy and paste into your
browser, make sure you grab the whole link if it shows up as 2 lines
in this email)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00095L94W/ref=nosim/?tag=pricegrabber-movies-20&creative=380333&creativeASIN=B00095L94W&linkCode=asn


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It's a film definitely worth watching but I'm sorry to say the first post really was semi-
pointless. Even if you were in the U.S. you not only need cable TV but jhave to pay X
dollars a month on top of the cable bill to get Showtime programming. The film has been
shown all sorts of places (not for free) and as mentioned in the followup is out on DVD for
pretty cheap for quite some time.

Not quite as good but also well worth watching is the poorly titled "Bruce Haack: King of
Techno". It suffers the same flaw as the Moog film in having a fair number of people
gushing about the subject who don't really know too much tied in with a new not really
essential tribute project the filmmaker was involved in putting together with whatever
musicians they could recruit to be part of it.

The other problem is Haack died in the 1980s in contrast to Moog who was in good health
and cooperative with the Moog film. The Haack film was shown on cable TV in a cut down
form. Sadly except for an audio interview in the bonus section Haack's home made
equipment dating back to the 1960s is still very mysterious.

The quick rundown on DVDs is the format of the DVD is significant if you have a domestic
stand alone player meant for sale in your country. If you watch DVDs onm your computer
then the format isn't significant. What is significant is commercial DVDs are supposed to
have what's called a Region Code to prevent them from playing in other parts of the world.
U.S. DVDs are only supposed to play in the U.S. and Canada. But there's a big grey area of
equipment that ignores the region code. Generally if you have one of these all region
players or DVD drives you know about it.