Emax

Hi there

I own an emax sampler with a broken disk drive. I've tried replacing 
it with a standard PCdrive, but even though the connections fit, it 
doesn't communicate. The one tech support guy I could find who 
actually remembers once repairing some of these things told me, that 
an old ATARI diskdrive might do the trick for me, but where do I find 
that? 
The questions for you guys are:

1) does anyone know of a way to get hold of one of these 
ATARIdrives?, or

2) does anyone know of some kind of app that will allow a pc (or mac) 
to read sounds from an emaxdisk and save them as wave, aiff or some 
other commonly used modern format.

Please help me, a lot of years hard work is running out the drain 
here.

Thanx

monsdrum

On 22 Jan 2002 at 0:10, monsdrum wrote:

> 2) does anyone know of some kind of app that will allow a pc (or mac)
> to read sounds from an emaxdisk and save them as wave, aiff or some
> other commonly used modern format.

The only way to get the samples out of the Emax format and onto a PC is over MIDI 
Sample Dump. Some programs for the PC are Sound Forge, Samplitude, and Awave. 
For the Mac there is Passport's Alchemy which you can actually use with a home built 
RS-422 cable in conjection with the serial port for fater transfers than SDS and Sound 
Designer (I think that's right).

John Silveria II
AIM: EmaxJS
The Silveria Family Website
Emax and Emax II User's Group
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Hey

Alchemy is the way to go if you have a Mac.  If you can find a copy for sale 
try to get version 3.

Ray

Hi,
A standard PC drive can not be set to ID = 0, which is what the Emax
requires. You can buy a new TEAC FD235HF-A529 drive (which is black) from a
TEAC dealer, also ask for a 41mm high bezel to make it half height. This
drive can be jumpered to ID (DS) = 0, we can send you the details. They work
really well.

If you are in the USA you can get them from Route 66 Studio (search this in
Google). We don't sell them anymore, unless you really can't locate one
elsewhere. They are US Dollars 100 from us.

An old ATARI drive may work, but you are best off buying a new one.

Go for Alchemy as you can convert to/from .wav files - there is a free
download on our web site that may work fine for you.

Regards and check out our web site for everything about Emax's.

Rob
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: monsdrum [mailto:monsdrum@...]
  Sent: 22 January 2002 00:11
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [emax] disk trouble


  Hi there

  I own an emax sampler with a broken disk drive. I've tried replacing
  it with a standard PCdrive, but even though the connections fit, it
  doesn't communicate. The one tech support guy I could find who
  actually remembers once repairing some of these things told me, that
  an old ATARI diskdrive might do the trick for me, but where do I find
  that?
  The questions for you guys are:

  1) does anyone know of a way to get hold of one of these
  ATARIdrives?, or

  2) does anyone know of some kind of app that will allow a pc (or mac)
  to read sounds from an emaxdisk and save them as wave, aiff or some
  other commonly used modern format.

  Please help me, a lot of years hard work is running out the drain
  here.

  Thanx

  monsdrum


  Emax and Emax II User's Group

  http://www.silveriafamily.com

  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



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for you guys are:
>
> 1) does anyone know of a way to get hold of one of these
> ATARIdrives?, or
>
>

Second hand shops?  Ebay?  They're not hard to get hold of.  The drives are
Shugart rather than PC drives, and the pin connections are slightly
different.  Dig about on www.buchty.net (possibly in the Casio section) for
details of a converter cable.  I've never made it up but I suspect it would
work for the Emax.

HTH
  Gordon

> The only way to get the samples out of the Emax format and onto a 
> PC is over MIDI Sample Dump.

OK, how do I do that? I remember once doing a MIDI sample transfer 
between the emax and another sampler, and though the result wasn't 
astounding, at least there was a data transfer. Now, I can't find a 
way to initiate a sample dump from within the emax, and it doesn't 
respond to a request. I've searched the menus as well as the manual. 
I'm using awave (PC). What could I be doing wrong??

All help very much appreciated

regards

monsdrum

Hi,
MIDI Sample Dump on the Emax is rather basic. The Emax can not initiate, but
it will respond to a request to transfer. Check you have a preset loaded
with voices, and that Awave is pointing at the right MIDI channel, preset
and voice. Try loading a preset and voice into 00 rather than 01. Make sure
there is no other MIDI mergers between computer MIDI interface and Emax. All
the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!  I am sure some one on the list has done this
!
Rob

  -----Original Message-----
  From: monsdrum [mailto:monsdrum@...]
  Sent: 22 January 2002 20:58
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [emax] Re: disk trouble


  > The only way to get the samples out of the Emax format and onto a
  > PC is over MIDI Sample Dump.

  OK, how do I do that? I remember once doing a MIDI sample transfer
  between the emax and another sampler, and though the result wasn't
  astounding, at least there was a data transfer. Now, I can't find a
  way to initiate a sample dump from within the emax, and it doesn't
  respond to a request. I've searched the menus as well as the manual.
  I'm using awave (PC). What could I be doing wrong??

  All help very much appreciated

  regards

  monsdrum


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> ... All the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!

Which would be...? As you may see, I am pretty new to this.

/monsdrum

I have a pretty lengthy tutorial on this in regards to the Emax II on my website, I use 
Sound Forge though, but it should give you enough info regardless of software. Here is 
a direct link to the page.

http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/emax2_midisdsguide.html

The link can be found from the Emax II FAQ.



On 22 Jan 2002 at 21:40, monsdrum wrote:

> > ... All the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!
> 
> Which would be...? As you may see, I am pretty new to this.
> 
> /monsdrum
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John,

thanx for the link, I am going to try it out. If it doesnt work, I'll 
accept that everything has an end, record the samples I cannot do 
without to transfer them to my s5000 and my EXS24, and eventually, 
whichever way I succed to backup the samples I will get rid of the 
emax. There comes a time when you have to face, that life goes on...

Thanx again

monsdrum


--- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> I have a pretty lengthy tutorial on this in regards to the Emax II 
on my website, I use 
> Sound Forge though, but it should give you enough info regardless 
of software. Here is 
> a direct link to the page.
> 
> http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/emax2_midisdsguide.html
> 
> The link can be found from the Emax II FAQ.
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 Jan 2002 at 21:40, monsdrum wrote:
> 
> > > ... All the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!
> > 
> > Which would be...? As you may see, I am pretty new to this.
> > 
> > /monsdrum
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In a message dated 1/23/02 7:41:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
monsdrum@... writes:

<< Subj:     [emax] Re: disk trouble
 Date:  1/23/02 7:41:03 AM Pacific Standard Time

 From:  monsdrum@... (monsdrum)
 Reply-to:  emax@yahoogroups.com
 To:    emax@yahoogroups.com
 
 John,
 
 thanx for the link, I am going to try it out. If it doesnt work, I'll 
 accept that everything has an end, record the samples I cannot do 
 without to transfer them to my s5000 and my EXS24, and eventually, 
 whichever way I succed to backup the samples I will get rid of the 
 emax. There comes a time when you have to face, that life goes on...
 
 Thanx again
 
 monsdrum >>
Is that an Emaxll? if you decied to get rid of it I am still looking for an 
Emaxll 4 meg or 8 meg keyboard or rack.

I know it can work, for 12 years I've been using SDS between my computers and my 
Emax, Emax II, and ESI-32. The main thing is first to remove everything in your MIDI 
chain and make sure the Emax II is connected both MIDI IN and OUT to the computer 
directly. Make sure the global MIDI setting is set to a single MIDI channel, I'd use 
Channel 1. Good luck! Let us know what happens.



On 23 Jan 2002 at 15:37, monsdrum wrote:

> John,
> 
> thanx for the link, I am going to try it out. If it doesnt work, I'll
> accept that everything has an end, record the samples I cannot do
> without to transfer them to my s5000 and my EXS24, and eventually,
> whichever way I succed to backup the samples I will get rid of the
> emax. There comes a time when you have to face, that life goes on...
> 
> Thanx again
> 
> monsdrum
> 
> 
> --- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> > I have a pretty lengthy tutorial on this in regards to the Emax II 
> on my website, I use 
> > Sound Forge though, but it should give you enough info regardless 
> of software. Here is 
> > a direct link to the page.
> > 
> > http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/emax2_midisdsguide.html
> > 
> > The link can be found from the Emax II FAQ.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 22 Jan 2002 at 21:40, monsdrum wrote:
> > 
> > > > ... All the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!
> > > 
> > > Which would be...? As you may see, I am pretty new to this.
> > > 
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It works!!

I am getting my samples through to the PC HD in good condition. 
Though the samplerate is a bit odd, this is nothing my wave editor 
can't handle, so soon I'm about to wave goodbye to the emax. Sort of 
sad, but in a good way.

I have a few guys who I'll have to ask first if they want it. If they 
don't I'll let this list know.
It's no emaxII, I'm afraid. It's the absolute basic emax model, 
merely named emax, since emu may not even have considered that they 
would make more models by the time they made this. You'll know in a 
few days if it's available.

Thanx to you all for your help - these bb's are just great!!

regards

monsdrum



--- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> I know it can work, for 12 years I've been using SDS between my 
computers and my 
> Emax, Emax II, and ESI-32. The main thing is first to remove 
everything in your MIDI 
> chain and make sure the Emax II is connected both MIDI IN and OUT 
to the computer 
> directly. Make sure the global MIDI setting is set to a single MIDI 
channel, I'd use 
> Channel 1. Good luck! Let us know what happens.
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 Jan 2002 at 15:37, monsdrum wrote:
> 
> > John,
> > 
> > thanx for the link, I am going to try it out. If it doesnt work, 
I'll
> > accept that everything has an end, record the samples I cannot do
> > without to transfer them to my s5000 and my EXS24, and eventually,
> > whichever way I succed to backup the samples I will get rid of the
> > emax. There comes a time when you have to face, that life goes 
on...
> > 
> > Thanx again
> > 
> > monsdrum
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> > > I have a pretty lengthy tutorial on this in regards to the Emax 
II 
> > on my website, I use 
> > > Sound Forge though, but it should give you enough info 
regardless 
> > of software. Here is 
> > > a direct link to the page.
> > > 
> > > http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/emax2_midisdsguide.html
> > > 
> > > The link can be found from the Emax II FAQ.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 22 Jan 2002 at 21:40, monsdrum wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > ... All the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!
> > > > 
> > > > Which would be...? As you may see, I am pretty new to this.
> > > > 
> > > > /monsdrum
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Yes, the Emax's use of very non-standard sample rate can be a bit tricky to work with, 
so can the fact that they are 12 not 8 or 16 bit samples. However that really only 
becomes an issue on older software and soundcards that can only play back 8 or 16 bit 
samples. It's one of the reasons why the Emax II can accept 44.1kHz 16 bit samples 
though it can make samples that high itself.

On 24 Jan 2002 at 20:31, monsdrum wrote:

> It works!!
> 
> I am getting my samples through to the PC HD in good condition. 
> Though the samplerate is a bit odd, this is nothing my wave editor
> can't handle, so soon I'm about to wave goodbye to the emax. Sort of
> sad, but in a good way.
> 
> I have a few guys who I'll have to ask first if they want it. If they
> don't I'll let this list know. It's no emaxII, I'm afraid. It's the
> absolute basic emax model, merely named emax, since emu may not even
> have considered that they would make more models by the time they made
> this. You'll know in a few days if it's available.
> 
> Thanx to you all for your help - these bb's are just great!!
> 
> regards
> 
> monsdrum
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> > I know it can work, for 12 years I've been using SDS between my 
> computers and my 
> > Emax, Emax II, and ESI-32. The main thing is first to remove 
> everything in your MIDI 
> > chain and make sure the Emax II is connected both MIDI IN and OUT 
> to the computer 
> > directly. Make sure the global MIDI setting is set to a single MIDI 
> channel, I'd use 
> > Channel 1. Good luck! Let us know what happens.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 23 Jan 2002 at 15:37, monsdrum wrote:
> > 
> > > John,
> > > 
> > > thanx for the link, I am going to try it out. If it doesnt work, 
> I'll
> > > accept that everything has an end, record the samples I cannot do
> > > without to transfer them to my s5000 and my EXS24, and eventually,
> > > whichever way I succed to backup the samples I will get rid of the
> > > emax. There comes a time when you have to face, that life goes 
> on...
> > > 
> > > Thanx again
> > > 
> > > monsdrum
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> > > > I have a pretty lengthy tutorial on this in regards to the Emax 
> II 
> > > on my website, I use 
> > > > Sound Forge though, but it should give you enough info 
> regardless 
> > > of software. Here is 
> > > > a direct link to the page.
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/emax2_midisdsguide.html
> > > > 
> > > > The link can be found from the Emax II FAQ.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 22 Jan 2002 at 21:40, monsdrum wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > ... All the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Which would be...? As you may see, I am pretty new to this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > /monsdrum
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That was suppose to read though it CAN'T make samples that high

On 24 Jan 2002 at 16:45, John Silveria wrote:

> Yes, the Emax's use of very non-standard sample rate can be a bit
> tricky to work with, so can the fact that they are 12 not 8 or 16 bit
> samples. However that really only becomes an issue on older software
> and soundcards that can only play back 8 or 16 bit samples. It's one
> of the reasons why the Emax II can accept 44.1kHz 16 bit samples
> though it can make samples that high itself.
> 
> On 24 Jan 2002 at 20:31, monsdrum wrote:
> 
> > It works!!
> > 
> > I am getting my samples through to the PC HD in good condition.
> > Though the samplerate is a bit odd, this is nothing my wave editor
> > can't handle, so soon I'm about to wave goodbye to the emax. Sort of
> > sad, but in a good way.
> > 
> > I have a few guys who I'll have to ask first if they want it. If
> > they don't I'll let this list know. It's no emaxII, I'm afraid. It's
> > the absolute basic emax model, merely named emax, since emu may not
> > even have considered that they would make more models by the time
> > they made this. You'll know in a few days if it's available.
> > 
> > Thanx to you all for your help - these bb's are just great!!
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > monsdrum
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> > > I know it can work, for 12 years I've been using SDS between my 
> > computers and my 
> > > Emax, Emax II, and ESI-32. The main thing is first to remove 
> > everything in your MIDI 
> > > chain and make sure the Emax II is connected both MIDI IN and OUT 
> > to the computer 
> > > directly. Make sure the global MIDI setting is set to a single
> > > MIDI 
> > channel, I'd use 
> > > Channel 1. Good luck! Let us know what happens.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 23 Jan 2002 at 15:37, monsdrum wrote:
> > > 
> > > > John,
> > > > 
> > > > thanx for the link, I am going to try it out. If it doesnt work,
> > > > 
> > I'll
> > > > accept that everything has an end, record the samples I cannot
> > > > do without to transfer them to my s5000 and my EXS24, and
> > > > eventually, whichever way I succed to backup the samples I will
> > > > get rid of the emax. There comes a time when you have to face,
> > > > that life goes 
> > on...
> > > > 
> > > > Thanx again
> > > > 
> > > > monsdrum
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In emax@y..., "John Silveria" <emaxjs@h...> wrote:
> > > > > I have a pretty lengthy tutorial on this in regards to the
> > > > > Emax 
> > II 
> > > > on my website, I use 
> > > > > Sound Forge though, but it should give you enough info 
> > regardless 
> > > > of software. Here is 
> > > > > a direct link to the page.
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/emax2_midisdsguide.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > The link can be found from the Emax II FAQ.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 22 Jan 2002 at 21:40, monsdrum wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > ... All the usual MIDI SDS hassles !!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Which would be...? As you may see, I am pretty new to this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > /monsdrum
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> ... You'll know in a few days if it's available.

One of my friends took it, so there's no emax giveaway on this list 
from me this time. Thanx again for the help. As soon as my mate gets 
it, I'll give him the route66 link, so you guys might as well get a 
diskdrive ready to ship - he's probably gonna order it.

regards

monsdrum