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Emax sysex control success!

Emax sysex control success!

2003-10-24 by Chris Strellis

Hi all and special greeting to Rob Keeble and John Silveria,

After downloading the Emax midi sysex PDF 

http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Manuals/ManualsEmax/manualsemax.html 
(thanks Rob)

and scrutinising it thoroughly, I thought I should be able to control 
my Emax SE and Emax II using my Peavey PC1600 controller (it's the 
original not the X version).

http://www.peavey.com/products/shop_online/browse.cfm/action/details/i
tem/18017860/wc/1A1D1/fam/1D/tcode/1/1600x.cfm

(you will probably have to rebuild the link into your browser with 
cut and paste a few times)

I bought the Peavey nearly a year ago but hadn't got around to 
programming it or using it until last night so I had to learn that as 
well!

I picked on just one control as a try out - the Filter Cut Off - a 
good one in my opinion :-).

I programmed the fader to send a MIDI string with the values all in 
hexadecimal:

F0 18 02 1A 00 57 02 1F pr F7

F0 - system exclusive
18 - E-mu id
02 - Emax id
1A - exclusive command to change voice parameter
00 - the lowest key number
57 - the highest key number (87 in decimal)
02 - affect both voices, primary and secondary
1F - Filter cut-off parameter
pr - Value from the fader (0 to 120 in decimal)
F7 - end of sysex message

I then connected the MIDI out of the Peavey to the MIDI in of my Emax 
II, loaded a Minimoog bass sound and...........

It worked!!!!

I could control the bass sound filter cut off just from the Peavey 
fader.

However, there are some limitations.  Just like editing the sound 
from the Emax data slider and buttons, the update doesn't happen 
unless you release the key and press it again.  If you play quickly, 
this isn't much of a problem. Also, if you have an arpeggio or 
sequence playing, then as soon as you touch the fader to alter the 
filter cut off, the playing stops.

I know I have assigned the right wheel to control filter cut off in 
the past and that changes the cut-off whilst a note is still held or 
if a sequence is playing.

Therefore, I need to assign my fader as a continuous controller to 
achieve this if I want or I can still use the wheel - shouldn't be a 
problem.

Furthermore, I shall now assign the rest of the faders, maybe 
tonight, for Filter Q and VCA AHDSR and VCF AHDSR, LFO rate, Vibrato 
and LFO to Fc and Env amount - yep that's 16 faders!  Most of the 
controls of an analogue synth.

I'm thinking what to do with the 16 buttons?  Seq stop/start?  Play 
drum samples from them...?

Hope this is useful to some of you out there.

Best regards

Chris

Re: [emax] Emax sysex control success!

2003-10-24 by John Silveria

This is great to hear. Let us know how things develop. I assign Filter and Q to the Mod 
wheel all the the time, My other favorite is to assign them to Velocity because I find that 
easier to manipulate in Cakewalk.


On 24 Oct 2003 at 8:57, Chris Strellis spoke unto me:

> Hi all and special greeting to Rob Keeble and John Silveria,
> 
> After downloading the Emax midi sysex PDF 
> 
> http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Manuals/ManualsEmax/manualsemax.html
> (thanks Rob)
> 
> and scrutinising it thoroughly, I thought I should be able to control
> my Emax SE and Emax II using my Peavey PC1600 controller (it's the
> original not the X version).
> 
> http://www.peavey.com/products/shop_online/browse.cfm/action/details/i
> tem/18017860/wc/1A1D1/fam/1D/tcode/1/1600x.cfm
> 
> (you will probably have to rebuild the link into your browser with cut
> and paste a few times)
> 
> I bought the Peavey nearly a year ago but hadn't got around to 
> programming it or using it until last night so I had to learn that as
> well!
> 
> I picked on just one control as a try out - the Filter Cut Off - a
> good one in my opinion :-).
> 
> I programmed the fader to send a MIDI string with the values all in
> hexadecimal:
> 
> F0 18 02 1A 00 57 02 1F pr F7
> 
> F0 - system exclusive
> 18 - E-mu id
> 02 - Emax id
> 1A - exclusive command to change voice parameter
> 00 - the lowest key number
> 57 - the highest key number (87 in decimal)
> 02 - affect both voices, primary and secondary
> 1F - Filter cut-off parameter
> pr - Value from the fader (0 to 120 in decimal)
> F7 - end of sysex message
> 
> I then connected the MIDI out of the Peavey to the MIDI in of my Emax
> II, loaded a Minimoog bass sound and...........
> 
> It worked!!!!
> 
> I could control the bass sound filter cut off just from the Peavey
> fader.
> 
> However, there are some limitations.  Just like editing the sound from
> the Emax data slider and buttons, the update doesn't happen unless you
> release the key and press it again.  If you play quickly, this isn't
> much of a problem. Also, if you have an arpeggio or sequence playing,
> then as soon as you touch the fader to alter the filter cut off, the
> playing stops.
> 
> I know I have assigned the right wheel to control filter cut off in
> the past and that changes the cut-off whilst a note is still held or
> if a sequence is playing.
> 
> Therefore, I need to assign my fader as a continuous controller to
> achieve this if I want or I can still use the wheel - shouldn't be a
> problem.
> 
> Furthermore, I shall now assign the rest of the faders, maybe 
> tonight, for Filter Q and VCA AHDSR and VCF AHDSR, LFO rate, Vibrato
> and LFO to Fc and Env amount - yep that's 16 faders!  Most of the
> controls of an analogue synth.
> 
> I'm thinking what to do with the 16 buttons?  Seq stop/start?  Play
> drum samples from them...?
> 
> Hope this is useful to some of you out there.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Emax sysex control success!

2003-10-24 by sindelfing

I have a ATARI program from:
Soft-Arts.
Its called Wave-Max
I can control my Emax 2 completely from the Atari
It also features build in Waveform-generation,so you can upload short waves ,to emax2



> This is great to hear. Let us know how things develop. I assign Filter and Q to the Mod 
> wheel all the the time, My other favorite is to assign them to Velocity because I find that 
> easier to manipulate in Cakewalk.
> 
> 
----------------------

Re: [emax] Re: Emax sysex control success!

2003-10-25 by Bob Conner

Is that for ST or Falcon?
Does it use a dongle?

Bob
--- sindelfing <fibers@...> wrote:
> I have a ATARI program from:
> Soft-Arts.
> Its called Wave-Max
> I can control my Emax 2 completely from the Atari
> It also features build in Waveform-generation,so you
> can upload short waves ,to emax2
> 
> 
> 
> > This is great to hear. Let us know how things
> develop. I assign Filter and Q to the Mod 
> > wheel all the the time, My other favorite is to
> assign them to Velocity because I find that 
> > easier to manipulate in Cakewalk.
> > 
> > 
> ----------------------
> 
> 


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Re: Emax sysex control success!

2003-10-25 by sindelfing

Its for ST (think will also work on Falcon)
No Dongle,
But the disc is copy-protected
I will upload a disc-image of it ,if someone is interested
But someone needs to hack it then
What program would i use to make the disc-image?
suggestions?

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Bob Conner <rennocbob@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Is that for ST or Falcon?
> Does it use a dongle?
> 
> Bob
> --- sindelfing <fibers@o...> wrote:
> > I have a ATARI program from:
> > Soft-Arts.
> > Its called Wave-Max
> > I can control my Emax 2 completely from the Atari
> > It also features build in Waveform-generation,so you
> > can upload short waves ,to emax2
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> __________________________________
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Re: [emax] Re: Emax sysex control success!

2003-10-25 by Bob Conner

I got this info from an Pocket PC Atari ST emulator
site:

search for the tools MSA2ST on the net, it will help
you to make an image disk of your ATARI ST DISK GAME
on PC

I have it some where if you need me to send it to you.

BTW, where would you be uploading this image to?

My FTP server does not accept uploads, but there's a
ton of Atari ST stuff ftp://67.122.78.102 if you are
interested.

Thanks!

Bob
--- sindelfing <fibers@...> wrote:
> Its for ST (think will also work on Falcon)
> No Dongle,
> But the disc is copy-protected
> I will upload a disc-image of it ,if someone is
> interested
> But someone needs to hack it then
> What program would i use to make the disc-image?
> suggestions?
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Bob Conner
> <rennocbob@y...> wrote:
> 
> > Is that for ST or Falcon?
> > Does it use a dongle?
> > 
> > Bob
> > --- sindelfing <fibers@o...> wrote:
> > > I have a ATARI program from:
> > > Soft-Arts.
> > > Its called Wave-Max
> > > I can control my Emax 2 completely from the
> Atari
> > > It also features build in Waveform-generation,so
> you
> > > can upload short waves ,to emax2
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product
> search
> > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> 
> 


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Re: Emax sysex control success!

2003-10-26 by sindelfing

I will upload it in the files section of this group


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Bob Conner <rennocbob@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I got this info from an Pocket PC Atari ST emulator
> site:
> 
> search for the tools MSA2ST on the net, it will help
> you to make an image disk of your ATARI ST DISK GAME
> on PC
> 
> I have it some where if you need me to send it to you.
> 
> BTW, where would you be uploading this image to?
> 
> My FTP server does not accept uploads, but there's a
> ton of Atari ST stuff ftp://67.122.78.102 if you are
> interested.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Bob
> --- sindelfing <fibers@o...> wrote:
> > Its for ST (think will also work on Falcon)
> > No Dongle,
> > But the disc is copy-protected
> > I will upload a disc-image of it ,if someone is
> > interested
> > But someone needs to hack it then
> > What program would i use to make the disc-image?
> > suggestions?
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Bob Conner
> > <rennocbob@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Is that for ST or Falcon?
> > > Does it use a dongle?
> > > 
> > > Bob
> > > --- sindelfing <fibers@o...> wrote:
> > > > I have a ATARI program from:
> > > > Soft-Arts.
> > > > Its called Wave-Max
> > > > I can control my Emax 2 completely from the
> > Atari
> > > > It also features build in Waveform-generation,so
> > you
> > > > can upload short waves ,to emax2
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product
> > search
> > > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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