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ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2003-06-14 by sglitsos

My first post.  I think it's a beauty.

Okay, here's the deal:  I got an Emax from a friend, I guess it sat 
in his garage for a long, long time.  It certainly looks like it -- 
absolutely pristine.

Now the problem:  it won't boot up!

It gives the Loading Software "splash screen," gives three reads 
of the drive, then goes to a blank LCD.

If I put a non-Emax disk in it, it recognizes it as an alien disk and 
goes keeps reading it (it's got a good rhythm).

Any ideas?  It's not the disk drive (swapped it with another 
Emax's, which has a dead sample input.. same symptom).

I have an essentially good Emax (but with a dead sample input) 
with which I can swap parts.. anything I should look at 
swapping?

I tried swapping the digital boards and it just resulted in a blank 
LCD when booting up. 

Thanks, folks.  I'm all torn up, I want to hear 12-bit choirs!

--S

Re: [emax] ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2003-06-14 by S. Glitsos

Not five minutes later, I fixed it!

In a last ditch attempt before I gave up, closed the Emax, and went to bed
(it IS 5:00AM!), I swapped a chip.. I guess it turned out to be the floppy
drive controller or something related.  It's located on the digital board
just above the floppy drive power.. labeled as follows:

IM36-1 BA
R1125-11
MEXICO A1
8736 6570

Works like a charm.

Beautifullllllllllllllll.

Anyone have any good choir samples?

stavros

on 6/14/03 4:46 AM, sglitsos at sglitsos@... wrote:

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> My first post.  I think it's a beauty.
> 
> Okay, here's the deal:  I got an Emax from a friend, I guess it sat
> in his garage for a long, long time.  It certainly looks like it --
> absolutely pristine.
> 
> Now the problem:  it won't boot up!
> 
> It gives the Loading Software "splash screen," gives three reads
> of the drive, then goes to a blank LCD.
> 
> If I put a non-Emax disk in it, it recognizes it as an alien disk and
> goes keeps reading it (it's got a good rhythm).
> 
> Any ideas?  It's not the disk drive (swapped it with another
> Emax's, which has a dead sample input.. same symptom).
> 
> I have an essentially good Emax (but with a dead sample input)
> with which I can swap parts.. anything I should look at
> swapping?
> 
> I tried swapping the digital boards and it just resulted in a blank
> LCD when booting up.
> 
> Thanks, folks.  I'm all torn up, I want to hear 12-bit choirs!
> 
> --S
> 
> 
> 
> Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
> 
> http://www.silveriafamily.com
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
>

Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-04-27 by brainztain

Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if I 
should try this on my emax hd.  I've tried various floppy disk drives 
on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while the 
floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three little 
ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.

Let me know if you have any recommendations.

Thanks




--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "S. Glitsos" <sglitsos@...> wrote:
>
> Not five minutes later, I fixed it!
> 
> In a last ditch attempt before I gave up, closed the Emax, and went 
to bed
> (it IS 5:00AM!), I swapped a chip.. I guess it turned out to be the 
floppy
> drive controller or something related.  It's located on the digital 
board
> just above the floppy drive power.. labeled as follows:
> 
> IM36-1 BA
> R1125-11
> MEXICO A1
> 8736 6570
> 
> Works like a charm.
> 
> Beautifullllllllllllllll.
> 
> Anyone have any good choir samples?
> 
> stavros
> 
> on 6/14/03 4:46 AM, sglitsos at sglitsos@... wrote:
> 
> > My first post.  I think it's a beauty.
> > 
> > Okay, here's the deal:  I got an Emax from a friend, I guess it 
sat
> > in his garage for a long, long time.  It certainly looks like it -
-
> > absolutely pristine.
> > 
> > Now the problem:  it won't boot up!
> > 
> > It gives the Loading Software "splash screen," gives three reads
> > of the drive, then goes to a blank LCD.
> > 
> > If I put a non-Emax disk in it, it recognizes it as an alien disk 
and
> > goes keeps reading it (it's got a good rhythm).
> > 
> > Any ideas?  It's not the disk drive (swapped it with another
> > Emax's, which has a dead sample input.. same symptom).
> > 
> > I have an essentially good Emax (but with a dead sample input)
> > with which I can swap parts.. anything I should look at
> > swapping?
> > 
> > I tried swapping the digital boards and it just resulted in a 
blank
> > LCD when booting up.
> > 
> > Thanks, folks.  I'm all torn up, I want to hear 12-bit choirs!
> > 
> > --S
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
> > 
> > http://www.silveriafamily.com
> > 
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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> > 
> >
>

Re: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-04-27 by elmacaco

When I load bad disks it stops at three clicks then hangs.  It seems you may have corrupt OS on the floppies.  I get this from EMX made OS disks the most often.

Try every disk you have, try making one with EMX, and If you want a separate disk I can provide you with a copy of almost any OS disk for the Emax I for $25.

Good Luck.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: brainztain 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:53 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.


  Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if I 
  should try this on my emax hd.  I've tried various floppy disk drives 
  on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while the 
  floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three little 
  ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.

  Let me know if you have any recommendations.

  Thanks




  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "S. Glitsos" <sglitsos@...> wrote:
  >
  > Not five minutes later, I fixed it!
  > 
  > In a last ditch attempt before I gave up, closed the Emax, and went 
  to bed
  > (it IS 5:00AM!), I swapped a chip.. I guess it turned out to be the 
  floppy
  > drive controller or something related.  It's located on the digital 
  board
  > just above the floppy drive power.. labeled as follows:
  > 
  > IM36-1 BA
  > R1125-11
  > MEXICO A1
  > 8736 6570
  > 
  > Works like a charm.
  > 
  > Beautifullllllllllllllll.
  > 
  > Anyone have any good choir samples?
  > 
  > stavros
  > 
  > on 6/14/03 4:46 AM, sglitsos at sglitsos@... wrote:
  > 
  > > My first post.  I think it's a beauty.
  > > 
  > > Okay, here's the deal:  I got an Emax from a friend, I guess it 
  sat
  > > in his garage for a long, long time.  It certainly looks like it -
  -
  > > absolutely pristine.
  > > 
  > > Now the problem:  it won't boot up!
  > > 
  > > It gives the Loading Software "splash screen," gives three reads
  > > of the drive, then goes to a blank LCD.
  > > 
  > > If I put a non-Emax disk in it, it recognizes it as an alien disk 
  and
  > > goes keeps reading it (it's got a good rhythm).
  > > 
  > > Any ideas?  It's not the disk drive (swapped it with another
  > > Emax's, which has a dead sample input.. same symptom).
  > > 
  > > I have an essentially good Emax (but with a dead sample input)
  > > with which I can swap parts.. anything I should look at
  > > swapping?
  > > 
  > > I tried swapping the digital boards and it just resulted in a 
  blank
  > > LCD when booting up.
  > > 
  > > Thanks, folks.  I'm all torn up, I want to hear 12-bit choirs!
  > > 
  > > --S
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
  > > 
  > > http://www.silveriafamily.com
  > > 
  > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
  > > 
  > >
  >






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Re: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-04-27 by Marco Barcena

Thanks, but eventhough I've spent more than $25 in time just trying to fix 
this, paying $25 bucks for those floppies just feels wrong.... especially 
when I don't know if that's the problem, because I've tried so many 
different things already.

I just went down to my co-op's coupter lab where they have an old 233mhz 
computer and emx'ed 6 floppies but none worked.

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>From: "elmacaco" <elmacaco@...>
>Reply-To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax.  It's broken, you know.
>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:12:16 -0500
>
>When I load bad disks it stops at three clicks then hangs.  It seems you 
>may have corrupt OS on the floppies.  I get this from EMX made OS disks the 
>most often.
>
>Try every disk you have, try making one with EMX, and If you want a 
>separate disk I can provide you with a copy of almost any OS disk for the 
>Emax I for $25.
>
>Good Luck.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: brainztain
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:53 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.
>
>
>   Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if I
>   should try this on my emax hd.  I've tried various floppy disk drives
>   on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while the
>   floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three little
>   ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.
>
>   Let me know if you have any recommendations.
>
>   Thanks
>
>
>
>
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "S. Glitsos" <sglitsos@...> wrote:
>   >
>   > Not five minutes later, I fixed it!
>   >
>   > In a last ditch attempt before I gave up, closed the Emax, and went
>   to bed
>   > (it IS 5:00AM!), I swapped a chip.. I guess it turned out to be the
>   floppy
>   > drive controller or something related.  It's located on the digital
>   board
>   > just above the floppy drive power.. labeled as follows:
>   >
>   > IM36-1 BA
>   > R1125-11
>   > MEXICO A1
>   > 8736 6570
>   >
>   > Works like a charm.
>   >
>   > Beautifullllllllllllllll.
>   >
>   > Anyone have any good choir samples?
>   >
>   > stavros
>   >
>   > on 6/14/03 4:46 AM, sglitsos at sglitsos@... wrote:
>   >
>   > > My first post.  I think it's a beauty.
>   > >
>   > > Okay, here's the deal:  I got an Emax from a friend, I guess it
>   sat
>   > > in his garage for a long, long time.  It certainly looks like it -
>   -
>   > > absolutely pristine.
>   > >
>   > > Now the problem:  it won't boot up!
>   > >
>   > > It gives the Loading Software "splash screen," gives three reads
>   > > of the drive, then goes to a blank LCD.
>   > >
>   > > If I put a non-Emax disk in it, it recognizes it as an alien disk
>   and
>   > > goes keeps reading it (it's got a good rhythm).
>   > >
>   > > Any ideas?  It's not the disk drive (swapped it with another
>   > > Emax's, which has a dead sample input.. same symptom).
>   > >
>   > > I have an essentially good Emax (but with a dead sample input)
>   > > with which I can swap parts.. anything I should look at
>   > > swapping?
>   > >
>   > > I tried swapping the digital boards and it just resulted in a
>   blank
>   > > LCD when booting up.
>   > >
>   > > Thanks, folks.  I'm all torn up, I want to hear 12-bit choirs!
>   > >
>   > > --S
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>   > >
>   > > http://www.silveriafamily.com
>   > >
>   > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>   http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>   > >
>   > >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>
>   http://www.silveriafamily.com
>
>
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Re: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-04-27 by elmacaco

That's cool.  I'm not trying to sell emax floppies, but if you want one from me, it takes $25 to get me to make it and get to the post office, it's not like I have stacks of DD's disks around.  I've helped a few people out in the past with them and it's usually when they can't get them any other way.  That's why I suggested everything else first.  If someone else will do it for free or cheaper it's no sweat of my balls.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marco Barcena 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.


  Thanks, but eventhough I've spent more than $25 in time just trying to fix 
  this, paying $25 bucks for those floppies just feels wrong.... especially 
  when I don't know if that's the problem, because I've tried so many 
  different things already.

  I just went down to my co-op's coupter lab where they have an old 233mhz 
  computer and emx'ed 6 floppies but none worked.


  >From: "elmacaco" <elmacaco@...>
  >Reply-To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
  >Subject: Re: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax.  It's broken, you know.
  >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:12:16 -0500
  >
  >When I load bad disks it stops at three clicks then hangs.  It seems you 
  >may have corrupt OS on the floppies.  I get this from EMX made OS disks the 
  >most often.
  >
  >Try every disk you have, try making one with EMX, and If you want a 
  >separate disk I can provide you with a copy of almost any OS disk for the 
  >Emax I for $25.
  >
  >Good Luck.
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: brainztain
  >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:53 PM
  >   Subject: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.
  >
  >
  >   Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if I
  >   should try this on my emax hd.  I've tried various floppy disk drives
  >   on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while the
  >   floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three little
  >   ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.
  >
  >   Let me know if you have any recommendations.
  >
  >   Thanks
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "S. Glitsos" <sglitsos@...> wrote:
  >   >
  >   > Not five minutes later, I fixed it!
  >   >
  >   > In a last ditch attempt before I gave up, closed the Emax, and went
  >   to bed
  >   > (it IS 5:00AM!), I swapped a chip.. I guess it turned out to be the
  >   floppy
  >   > drive controller or something related.  It's located on the digital
  >   board
  >   > just above the floppy drive power.. labeled as follows:
  >   >
  >   > IM36-1 BA
  >   > R1125-11
  >   > MEXICO A1
  >   > 8736 6570
  >   >
  >   > Works like a charm.
  >   >
  >   > Beautifullllllllllllllll.
  >   >
  >   > Anyone have any good choir samples?
  >   >
  >   > stavros
  >   >
  >   > on 6/14/03 4:46 AM, sglitsos at sglitsos@... wrote:
  >   >
  >   > > My first post.  I think it's a beauty.
  >   > >
  >   > > Okay, here's the deal:  I got an Emax from a friend, I guess it
  >   sat
  >   > > in his garage for a long, long time.  It certainly looks like it -
  >   -
  >   > > absolutely pristine.
  >   > >
  >   > > Now the problem:  it won't boot up!
  >   > >
  >   > > It gives the Loading Software "splash screen," gives three reads
  >   > > of the drive, then goes to a blank LCD.
  >   > >
  >   > > If I put a non-Emax disk in it, it recognizes it as an alien disk
  >   and
  >   > > goes keeps reading it (it's got a good rhythm).
  >   > >
  >   > > Any ideas?  It's not the disk drive (swapped it with another
  >   > > Emax's, which has a dead sample input.. same symptom).
  >   > >
  >   > > I have an essentially good Emax (but with a dead sample input)
  >   > > with which I can swap parts.. anything I should look at
  >   > > swapping?
  >   > >
  >   > > I tried swapping the digital boards and it just resulted in a
  >   blank
  >   > > LCD when booting up.
  >   > >
  >   > > Thanks, folks.  I'm all torn up, I want to hear 12-bit choirs!
  >   > >
  >   > > --S
  >   > >
  >   > >
  >   > >
  >   > > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
  >   > >
  >   > > http://www.silveriafamily.com
  >   > >
  >   > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
  >   http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
  >   > >
  >   > >
  >   >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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  >
  >   http://www.silveriafamily.com
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Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-06-09 by oh3nlp

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brainztain" <digitailslide@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if I 
> should try this on my emax hd.  I've tried various floppy disk 
drives 
> on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while the 
> floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three little 
> ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.
> 
> Let me know if you have any recommendations.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
>>

Hello

Have you solved the problem?
I have same thing. I've made several 3.2-bootdisks and changed the 
disk drive also. All the same. EMAX starts to load and then stops 
(after these 3 "ticks"). I made short searching with google to found 
this controller chip mentioned before, but i didn't found anything 
data about it. 
So, i have no idea, is the problem disk or drive controller.

It's strange that how it could made even these 3 ticks, if 
controller is broke down. 
In other hand, i have made these bootdisks with working 720k-floppy 
drive, which i also use to make some disks to my ensoniq eps-16+. 
I've tried 2 different drives in my EMAX. same function with both: 3 
ticks, then stop.

Any ideas? Anyone?

Best Regards,
Jukka

Re: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-06-10 by elmacaco

I get the 3 ticks and stop when I have a bad disk, I suspect that's the problem, when I make OS disks in EMX that happens, but when I make copies of the OS disks I have it works fine.  Try and get an OS disk from another local emax user and see if that loads.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: oh3nlp 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:06 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brainztain" <digitailslide@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if I 
  > should try this on my emax hd. I've tried various floppy disk 
  drives 
  > on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while the 
  > floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three little 
  > ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.
  > 
  > Let me know if you have any recommendations.
  > 
  > Thanks
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >>

  Hello

  Have you solved the problem?
  I have same thing. I've made several 3.2-bootdisks and changed the 
  disk drive also. All the same. EMAX starts to load and then stops 
  (after these 3 "ticks"). I made short searching with google to found 
  this controller chip mentioned before, but i didn't found anything 
  data about it. 
  So, i have no idea, is the problem disk or drive controller.

  It's strange that how it could made even these 3 ticks, if 
  controller is broke down. 
  In other hand, i have made these bootdisks with working 720k-floppy 
  drive, which i also use to make some disks to my ensoniq eps-16+. 
  I've tried 2 different drives in my EMAX. same function with both: 3 
  ticks, then stop.

  Any ideas? Anyone?

  Best Regards,
  Jukka

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Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-06-10 by esynthesist

The bad formatting by EMX and EMXP for EMAX-I disks is probably 
caused by calibration & tolerance differences between the drives used 
in EMAX-I and the drives used in most EMAX-II and PC's.

This seemed like an unsolvable problem, but I have had contact with 
J. Watton of sherlock consulting software. He makes free software 
(OmniFlop) to read/write almost any kind of floppy disk. He 
investigated the EMAX-I disk image I sent him and has tried to make 
his OmniFlop software EMAX-I compatible. This version is released a 
week ago (version 2.01i). I didn't have time to do intensive testing, 
but the first disk I formatted with OmniFlop worked fine on my EMAX-
SE sampler while the disks formatted by EMX and EMXP almost always 
failed (3-ticks).

Note however that although OmniFlop can also read/write these disks 
(besides formatting them), it needs the full 800K image to do that. 
Most files on the internet are either the 540K EMX sound images or 
the 260K operating system images, but not the merged 800K images.

I'll make EMXP compatible with the OmniFlop driver in the summer, but 
in the meantime you'll have to:
- format the floppy disk on Windows XP with OmniFlop
- write the OS and sound banks on DOS with the original EMX software 
(on the disks formatted by OmniFlop).
Of course you only have to do this once - after you made the first 
disk this way you can format the other disks on your EMAX sampler 
itself and use either EMX or EMXP to write OS and sound data to them.

You can download OmniFlop here:
http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop/OmniFlop.htm

To be able to use the rather new EMAX support of this software, 
you'll need a free license. But you get it almost immediately and it 
works fine...

Again, I only did some small (but successful) tests with it, but of 
course there's no guarantee that the OmniFlop-formatted disks work on 
all EMAX samplers...

Hope this helps. 

///E-Synthesist

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@...> wrote:
>
> I get the 3 ticks and stop when I have a bad disk, I suspect that's 
the problem, when I make OS disks in EMX that happens, but when I 
make copies of the OS disks I have it works fine.  Try and get an OS 
disk from another local emax user and see if that loads.
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: oh3nlp 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:06 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.
> 
> 
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brainztain" <digitailslide@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if 
I 
>   > should try this on my emax hd. I've tried various floppy disk 
>   drives 
>   > on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while 
the 
>   > floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three 
little 
>   > ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.
>   > 
>   > Let me know if you have any recommendations.
>   > 
>   > Thanks
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >>
> 
>   Hello
> 
>   Have you solved the problem?
>   I have same thing. I've made several 3.2-bootdisks and changed 
the 
>   disk drive also. All the same. EMAX starts to load and then stops 
>   (after these 3 "ticks"). I made short searching with google to 
found 
>   this controller chip mentioned before, but i didn't found 
anything 
>   data about it. 
>   So, i have no idea, is the problem disk or drive controller.
> 
>   It's strange that how it could made even these 3 ticks, if 
>   controller is broke down. 
>   In other hand, i have made these bootdisks with working 720k-
floppy 
>   drive, which i also use to make some disks to my ensoniq eps-16+. 
>   I've tried 2 different drives in my EMAX. same function with 
both: 3

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>   ticks, then stop.
> 
>   Any ideas? Anyone?
> 
>   Best Regards,
>   Jukka
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-06-10 by phili4blunts

i just tryed the omniflop program with no success. the "EMu Emax
800kB" was missing from the list of supported formats when i installed
the driver. i thought it shuold have been listed after i installed so
that i could format the disk and then use emx to write the os and a
soundbank to disk. i emailed the programer so hopefully i get a
response soon. its almost been a year since i got my emax and i havent
been able to use it. so im hoping you get a working version of the
emxp proram esynthesist.

peace


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:

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>
> The bad formatting by EMX and EMXP for EMAX-I disks is probably 
> caused by calibration & tolerance differences between the drives used 
> in EMAX-I and the drives used in most EMAX-II and PC's.
> 
> This seemed like an unsolvable problem, but I have had contact with 
> J. Watton of sherlock consulting software. He makes free software 
> (OmniFlop) to read/write almost any kind of floppy disk. He 
> investigated the EMAX-I disk image I sent him and has tried to make 
> his OmniFlop software EMAX-I compatible. This version is released a 
> week ago (version 2.01i). I didn't have time to do intensive testing, 
> but the first disk I formatted with OmniFlop worked fine on my EMAX-
> SE sampler while the disks formatted by EMX and EMXP almost always 
> failed (3-ticks).
> 
> Note however that although OmniFlop can also read/write these disks 
> (besides formatting them), it needs the full 800K image to do that. 
> Most files on the internet are either the 540K EMX sound images or 
> the 260K operating system images, but not the merged 800K images.
> 
> I'll make EMXP compatible with the OmniFlop driver in the summer, but 
> in the meantime you'll have to:
> - format the floppy disk on Windows XP with OmniFlop
> - write the OS and sound banks on DOS with the original EMX software 
> (on the disks formatted by OmniFlop).
> Of course you only have to do this once - after you made the first 
> disk this way you can format the other disks on your EMAX sampler 
> itself and use either EMX or EMXP to write OS and sound data to them.
> 
> You can download OmniFlop here:
> http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop/OmniFlop.htm
> 
> To be able to use the rather new EMAX support of this software, 
> you'll need a free license. But you get it almost immediately and it 
> works fine...
> 
> Again, I only did some small (but successful) tests with it, but of 
> course there's no guarantee that the OmniFlop-formatted disks work on 
> all EMAX samplers...
> 
> Hope this helps. 
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emax@...m, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@> wrote:
> >
> > I get the 3 ticks and stop when I have a bad disk, I suspect that's 
> the problem, when I make OS disks in EMX that happens, but when I 
> make copies of the OS disks I have it works fine.  Try and get an OS 
> disk from another local emax user and see if that loads.
> > 
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: oh3nlp 
> >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:06 PM
> >   Subject: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.
> > 
> > 
> >   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brainztain" <digitailslide@> wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask you if 
> I 
> >   > should try this on my emax hd. I've tried various floppy disk 
> >   drives 
> >   > on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen while 
> the 
> >   > floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three 
> little 
> >   > ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.
> >   > 
> >   > Let me know if you have any recommendations.
> >   > 
> >   > Thanks
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   >>
> > 
> >   Hello
> > 
> >   Have you solved the problem?
> >   I have same thing. I've made several 3.2-bootdisks and changed 
> the 
> >   disk drive also. All the same. EMAX starts to load and then stops 
> >   (after these 3 "ticks"). I made short searching with google to 
> found 
> >   this controller chip mentioned before, but i didn't found 
> anything 
> >   data about it. 
> >   So, i have no idea, is the problem disk or drive controller.
> > 
> >   It's strange that how it could made even these 3 ticks, if 
> >   controller is broke down. 
> >   In other hand, i have made these bootdisks with working 720k-
> floppy 
> >   drive, which i also use to make some disks to my ensoniq eps-16+. 
> >   I've tried 2 different drives in my EMAX. same function with 
> both: 3 
> >   ticks, then stop.
> > 
> >   Any ideas? Anyone?
> > 
> >   Best Regards,
> >   Jukka
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you know.

2006-06-10 by esynthesist

Strange... the installation of driver and software of Omniflop on my 
PC gave no problems at all.
I hope the programmer will help you, because it would be a shame not 
to use the EMAX !

///E-Synthesist



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "phili4blunts" <philiblunt@...> wrote:
>
> i just tryed the omniflop program with no success. the "EMu Emax
> 800kB" was missing from the list of supported formats when i 
installed
> the driver. i thought it shuold have been listed after i installed 
so
> that i could format the disk and then use emx to write the os and a
> soundbank to disk. i emailed the programer so hopefully i get a
> response soon. its almost been a year since i got my emax and i 
havent
> been able to use it. so im hoping you get a working version of the
> emxp proram esynthesist.
> 
> peace
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > The bad formatting by EMX and EMXP for EMAX-I disks is probably 
> > caused by calibration & tolerance differences between the drives 
used 
> > in EMAX-I and the drives used in most EMAX-II and PC's.
> > 
> > This seemed like an unsolvable problem, but I have had contact 
with 
> > J. Watton of sherlock consulting software. He makes free software 
> > (OmniFlop) to read/write almost any kind of floppy disk. He 
> > investigated the EMAX-I disk image I sent him and has tried to 
make 
> > his OmniFlop software EMAX-I compatible. This version is released 
a 
> > week ago (version 2.01i). I didn't have time to do intensive 
testing, 
> > but the first disk I formatted with OmniFlop worked fine on my 
EMAX-
> > SE sampler while the disks formatted by EMX and EMXP almost 
always 
> > failed (3-ticks).
> > 
> > Note however that although OmniFlop can also read/write these 
disks 
> > (besides formatting them), it needs the full 800K image to do 
that. 
> > Most files on the internet are either the 540K EMX sound images 
or 
> > the 260K operating system images, but not the merged 800K images.
> > 
> > I'll make EMXP compatible with the OmniFlop driver in the summer, 
but 
> > in the meantime you'll have to:
> > - format the floppy disk on Windows XP with OmniFlop
> > - write the OS and sound banks on DOS with the original EMX 
software 
> > (on the disks formatted by OmniFlop).
> > Of course you only have to do this once - after you made the 
first 
> > disk this way you can format the other disks on your EMAX sampler 
> > itself and use either EMX or EMXP to write OS and sound data to 
them.
> > 
> > You can download OmniFlop here:
> > http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop/OmniFlop.htm
> > 
> > To be able to use the rather new EMAX support of this software, 
> > you'll need a free license. But you get it almost immediately and 
it 
> > works fine...
> > 
> > Again, I only did some small (but successful) tests with it, but 
of 
> > course there's no guarantee that the OmniFlop-formatted disks 
work on 
> > all EMAX samplers...
> > 
> > Hope this helps. 
> > 
> > ///E-Synthesist
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "elmacaco" <elmacaco@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I get the 3 ticks and stop when I have a bad disk, I suspect 
that's 
> > the problem, when I make OS disks in EMX that happens, but when I 
> > make copies of the OS disks I have it works fine.  Try and get an 
OS 
> > disk from another local emax user and see if that loads.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: oh3nlp 
> > >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> > >   Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:06 PM
> > >   Subject: [emax] Re: ALMOST perfect Emax. It's broken, you 
know.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brainztain" <digitailslide@> 
wrote:
> > >   >
> > >   > Hey, I know this thread is old, but I just wanted to ask 
you if 
> > I 
> > >   > should try this on my emax hd. I've tried various floppy 
disk 
> > >   drives 
> > >   > on it but they all hang on the "loading software" screen 
while 
> > the 
> > >   > floppy drive led stays on forever... and yes, it does three 
> > little 
> > >   > ticks and then stops, but the light stays on.
> > >   > 
> > >   > Let me know if you have any recommendations.
> > >   > 
> > >   > Thanks
> > >   > 
> > >   > 
> > >   > 
> > >   >>
> > > 
> > >   Hello
> > > 
> > >   Have you solved the problem?
> > >   I have same thing. I've made several 3.2-bootdisks and 
changed 
> > the 
> > >   disk drive also. All the same. EMAX starts to load and then 
stops 
> > >   (after these 3 "ticks"). I made short searching with google 
to 
> > found 
> > >   this controller chip mentioned before, but i didn't found 
> > anything 
> > >   data about it. 
> > >   So, i have no idea, is the problem disk or drive controller.
> > > 
> > >   It's strange that how it could made even these 3 ticks, if 
> > >   controller is broke down. 
> > >   In other hand, i have made these bootdisks with working 720k-
> > floppy 
> > >   drive, which i also use to make some disks to my ensoniq eps-
16+.

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> > >   I've tried 2 different drives in my EMAX. same function with 
> > both: 3 
> > >   ticks, then stop.
> > > 
> > >   Any ideas? Anyone?
> > > 
> > >   Best Regards,
> > >   Jukka
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >    
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>