Nice work...;) I was fiddling around trying something similar with a free demo of MacDrive, but it got my PC into a horrible state - I wouldn't recommend letting this software anywhere near your computer. I'll have another crack at it with this approach. ) --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote: > > Just FYI: I managed to format a ZIP disk on a Windows XP machine in > such way that the disk is readable and bootable by an Emax. > > I'll just explain exactly what I did: > > 1/ I formatted the disk using a free demo-version of MacDisk (for > WinXP). I used the HFS (not HFS+) format option. > > --> This disk is not usable on an Emax yet, but at least the original > MS-DOS format structure is "killed" :-) > > 2/ Then I re-formatted the very same disk using the IomegaWare format > function (I have IomegaWare running on my PC, this package adds some > functions to the Windows Explorer menu, of which also Iomega Format). > I used the short format (30 seconds) procedure. > > --> This format resulted in an error... > > 3/ Immediately after this Iomega Format I re-formatted the very same > disk again, this time simply with the standard Format Disk function > in Windows Explorer. I used the "long" format option. The format > capacity I selected was 96 MB (the only possible one). > > Then I copied an EMAX-II HD image to that ZIP disk with EMXP. > > --> This disk can be read and booted on my EMAX-II ! > > > Maybe step 2 can be skipped, I don't know because I don't have any > non-EMAX zip disks left so I can't do another test anymore. > > Anyway, whatever format tools you try, it is extremely important that > you are able to format the disk with a 96 MB capacity. So not the > 95.7 MB which is the default capacity suggested by Windows Explorer... > > So it seems possible to create an EMAX-II ZIP disk from scratch > without any need for a Mac computer or EMAX-II sampler ! > > > Have fun, > > ///E-Synthesist > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote: > > > > No, the restore function always works. > > Windows formatted ZIP disks are almost the same as Emax/MAC > formatted > > ZIP disks. But Emax/Mac machines format a few more sectors on the > > disk, and unfortunately Emax seems to check the existence of these > > additional sectors. If it can't find them, it gives an error > > message "Not an EMAX-II disk" or something like that. > > > > I haven't found a way yet to format ZIP disks with those additonal > > sectors under Windows XP. I think it's possible with parallel > > versions and old Iomega drivers, but most of us use USB drives of > > course. > > Anyway, that's the reason why there's no "format ZIP" function in > > EMXP... > > > > So I hope you have access to a Mac computer somewhere ? > > (or pre-formatted ZIP-disks for MAC, those exist too !) > > > > ///E-Synthesist > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "b_j_glover" <b_j_glover@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the extra info. When I was trying the ZIP method, I > was > > > using a PC formatted (250MB) disk, though you warned this might > not > > > work. However, the "Restore" function in EMXP seemed to operate > > > correctly. But is the fact that Restore can be used to put an > image > > > on the disk enough to guarantee that the disk is in an acceptable > > > format to the Emax...? > > > > > > > That's strange ! > > > > > > > > I have an EMAX-II rack without any internal HD. > > > > The only two disk devices connected to this EMAX-II are: > > > > - the internal floppy drive > > > > - an external 100 MB ZIP drive with ID = 6 and terminator = ON. > > > > (the Boot SCSI ID in the Master Module is set to 4 however) > > > > > > > > When I boot the EMAX-II without any floppy disk in the drive, > but > > > > with an EMAX-II formatted ZIP disk with OS in the ZIP drive, it > > > boots > > > > from that ZIP disk ! > > > > > > > > The EMAX-II always scans the complete SCSI chain if it doesn't > > find > > > > an OS on the floppy disk or on the "default SCSI device" set by > > the > > > > SCSI ID you mentioned in the Master module. > > > > This Master setting does not mean that the OS can only be > loaded > > > from > > > > that device. The Master SCSI ID must be set if your EMAX-II has > > > > multiple HD's (or ZIP disks) each carrying its own OS. In that > > > case, > > > > you have to tell the EMAX-II which OS device is the preferred > > > > one/should be used. It indicates the first HD which will be > > checked > > > > by the EMAX-II. If no OS resides on that HD, EMAX-II will start > > the > > > > SCSI chain search. > > > > > > > > So normally you should not have any problem with booting from > an > > > > external ZIP drive. > > > > (on EMAX-I however, the ZIP drive MUST have SCSI ID = 0) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > ///E-Synthesist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "b_j_glover" <b_j_glover@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi - > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick reply - that's an excellent utility. > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately the Emax II seems to want to read its OS from > the > > > > > floppy unless you change the SCSI Boot ID to something else. > > The > > > > > manual says: > > > > > > > > > > "This function allows you to select which SCSI drive > (0=floppy, > > 1- > > > > > 7=HD) Emax II will scan on initial power up for its operating > > > > > software. Note: Emax II will always boot from floppy if a > > > formatted > > > > > floppy disk resides in the drive on power up" > > > > > > > > > > My external ZIP drive only allows the 5/6 ID setting. I also > > > tried > > > > > booting up from a prepared internal SCSI drive set to ID 0, > and > > > > using > > > > > the trick of putting a jumper on pins 25/26 of the floppy > > > connector > > > > > to avert the system check, but it hangs on "Pease Insert > Disk". > > I > > > > > don't know whether that's because the drive doesn't spin up > in > > > > time, > > > > > or whether the thing is canny enough to know it's been > > hoodwinked. > > > > > > > > > > Bleugh - after pulling apart my PC, my Emax and my Kurzweil > to > > > get > > > > > this far, I think I'm going to have to surrender to Route > > 66...;) > > > > But > > > > > once I get it working, I'll definitely be making more use of > > the > > > > > wondrous EMXP... > > > > > > > > > > specify otherwise --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" > > > > > <esynthesist@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes there is. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can create an EMAX-II ZIP disk image with EMXP v2.02. > > > > > > (using the "manage Emax HD/CD images"->"create new image" > > > menu). > > > > > After > > > > > > the 96 MB image-file has been created by EMXP, you can add > an > > > > Emax- > > > > > II > > > > > > OS to it (again with EMXP v2.02). OS files can be > downloaded > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > group or from the emulatorarchive website. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then you have to copy the image to a ZIP disk (connected to > > > your > > > > > PC). > > > > > > Again use EMXP for this :-) (via "restore" function) > > > > > > > > > > > > One important note though ! > > > > > > The ZIP disk must have been formatted first in an "emax- > > > > compatible" > > > > > way. > > > > > > You don't need an EMAX to do that, but unfortunately my > > > > experience > > > > > > shows that simply formatting a ZIP disk on a Windows > machine > > > does > > > > > not > > > > > > guarantee an EMAX-compatible ZIP disk. > > > > > > I always format them first on an old Mac Classic. This > format > > > > > procedure > > > > > > seems to be compatible with Emax... > > > > > > > > > > > > ///E-Synthesist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In emax@...m, "b_j_glover" <b_j_glover@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got an Emax II (2212) which I haven't been able to > > boot > > > > up - > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > tried creating boot floppies, but they've never worked, > and > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > the > > > > > > > drive might need replacing. But I've got a 100MB SCSI Zip > > > > drive, > > > > > and > > > > > > I > > > > > > > was wondering if there might be any way to create a > > bootable > > > > > image on > > > > > > > that via a PC...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Emax II - boot from Zip...?
2007-03-19 by b_j_glover
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