Elektron Musical Instruments

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  From: rene rikkers 
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  Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] Digest Number 911


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  >From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
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  >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: [elektron] Digest Number 911
  >Date: 17 Jul 2003 10:53:12 -0000
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  >There are 6 messages in this issue.
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  >Topics in this digest:
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  >       1. Re: Machinedrum question
  >            From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
  >       2. Re: A few questions
  >            From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
  >       3. Re: Re: Machinedrum question
  >            From: "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...>
  >       4. Re: Re: Machinedrum question
  >            From: Corey Appleby <digitalwank@...>
  >       5. RE: Re: Machinedrum question
  >            From: "Matt Picone" <matman@...>
  >       6. Re: A few questions
  >            From: "Joe" <jmelnyk@...>
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  >Message: 1
  >    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:18:31 -0000
  >    From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
  >Subject: Re: Machinedrum question
  >
  >Actualy, the MC-202 is slaved to the FR-777 via the cv/gate out.
  >Mixing the two together givees a nice sound, similar to having a dual
  >ocilator synth.  I dont have any samples as yet because things are a
  >wreck here at the moment.  Once I have some I shall post them if you
  >would like to hear.
  >
  >
  >Bryan
  >
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  >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
  ><d3berg@d...> wrote:
  > > On Tue Jul 15 2003, ask <iceberg@t...> wrote:
  > >
  > > > This will be my live setup:
  > > >
  > > > Elektron Machinedrum
  > > > E-MU E5000 Ultra sampler
  > > > Future Retro 777 analog synth/sequencer
  > > > Roland MC-202 analog synth
  > > > Mackie DFX-12 console mixer
  > >
  > > Interesting! How will you be using the MC-202, loading sequences
  >into
  > > it between every track from cd? The rest of the gear seems to work
  > > fine in a live situation, but not the 202.
  > >
  > > /Janne
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  >Message: 2
  >    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:22:52 -0000
  >    From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
  >Subject: Re: A few questions
  >
  >Thanks, that is the closer, I just need to fish together the moeny
  >and I'll be placing my order, hopefuly within the next 2 months.
  >It's hard waiting though, anyone need to buy a kidney?
  >
  >
  >Bryan
  >
  >
  >
  >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald" <info@r...> wrote:
  > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ask" <iceberg@t...> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The
  > > > Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a
  > > pain
  > > > to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show
  > > using
  > > > pattern edit.
  > >
  > > Yes, midi is always send out (depending on the midi settings).
  > > It's a very clever system because you can also send program changes
  > > wich will only happen once untill another is encountered. This way
  > > your connected gear won't reset the sound parameters every loop due
  > > to the program change.
  > >
  > > Grtz Ronald.
  >
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  >Message: 3
  >    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:27:41 +0200
  >    From: "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...>
  >Subject: Re: Re: Machinedrum question
  >
  >On Wed Jul 16 2003, ask <iceberg@...> wrote:
  >
  > > Actualy, the MC-202 is slaved to the FR-777 via the cv/gate out.
  > > Mixing the two together givees a nice sound, similar to having a dual
  > > ocilator synth.  I dont have any samples as yet because things are a
  > > wreck here at the moment.  Once I have some I shall post them if you
  > > would like to hear.
  >
  >Hmm... but the 777 does already have two oscs (plus two subs). What
  >you get is a three oscs (and three subs), plus the 202 has cleaner
  >sounds when going up in frequency.
  >
  >You get a 3 ms lag from the 202 as well. I've tried this by slaving
  >the 202 from a 303 and recording the resulting sounds. Checked it in a
  >waveform editor. :) A SH-101 seems to me like a much better choice if
  >you can find it. A bit bigger though, which might make it impractical
  >for gigging.
  >
  >And now, back to Elektron stuff.
  >
  >/Janne, has a 777 and 202 at home as well
  >
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  >Message: 4
  >    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:17:22 -0400
  >    From: Corey Appleby <digitalwank@...>
  >Subject: Re: Re: Machinedrum question
  >
  >On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 08:08  PM, Matt Picone wrote:
  >
  > > Truly a creative machine. When/if Elektron add support for use with
  > > dDrums, it will be the ultimate.
  >
  >I don't know anything about the dDrums but most electronic drum kits
  >are just piezo elements mounted under some rubber.  I picked up a Casio
  >DZ-1 on ebay for $30 (http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/casio_dz1.cfm)
  >and have used it to convert my drumkit into MIDI.  I also learned a
  >very valuable lesson that day...I have ZERO ability to play the drums
  >:)  If the dDrums kit has normal phono outputs it's probably the
  >standard trigger signal and can easily be converted into midi.
  >
  >hth,
  >c.
  >
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  >Message: 5
  >    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:30:58 -0400
  >    From: "Matt Picone" <matman@...>
  >Subject: RE: Re: Machinedrum question
  >
  > > I don't know anything about the dDrums...
  > > the standard trigger signal and can easily be converted into midi.
  >
  >The first problem is that ddrums send a range of midi notes per
  >instrument, not just one, for "positional sensing" on the heads.
  >
  >The second problem is that the hihats use the same note for open and
  >closed-- the choice between them is made by a midi CC (selects and
  >crossfades)
  >
  >The third problem is more of a limit, in that it's nice to be able to
  >map velocity to something besides volume when playing pads.
  >
  >-M@
  >
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  >Message: 6
  >    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:42:08 -0000
  >    From: "Joe" <jmelnyk@...>
  >Subject: Re: A few questions
  >
  >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ask" <iceberg@t...> wrote:
  > > Ok, before I sell off all my non-essential belongings to be able to
  > > afford a MD, I have a few questions.
  > >
  > > 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The
  > > Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a
  > > pain
  > > to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show using
  > > pattern edit.
  >
  >yes, it sends MIDI data in pattern mode. which is what I almost always
  >use, even when sequencing other gear. (it makes the machine just a bit
  >more "live" to me.)
  >
  > > 2) while preforming in edit mode does the MD autosave the new
  > > patterns?
  >
  >I don't know about "auto" save... see, if you are editing a pattern,
  >then you're in record mode. so all changes made during that mode are
  >saved.
  >
  >what it *does* do that's nice is if you are editing sounds of a given
  >kit, it will save them between a restart. so you can edit a kit, turn
  >the machine off then turn it back on and continue editing without
  >having to save anything (because maybe you're not completely happy
  >with a sound yet). but as soon as you load another kit (or pattern),
  >the edited non-saved kit setting will be gone.
  >
  >I hope you figure out a way to get it; it's a terrific machine :-)
  >Joe.
  >
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