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Re: [elektron] Digest Number 911

2003-07-18 by rene rikkers

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>From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [elektron] Digest Number 911
>Date: 17 Jul 2003 10:53:12 -0000
>
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>There are 6 messages in this issue.
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>Topics in this digest:
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>       1. Re: Machinedrum question
>            From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
>       2. Re: A few questions
>            From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
>       3. Re: Re: Machinedrum question
>            From: "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...>
>       4. Re: Re: Machinedrum question
>            From: Corey Appleby <digitalwank@...>
>       5. RE: Re: Machinedrum question
>            From: "Matt Picone" <matman@...>
>       6. Re: A few questions
>            From: "Joe" <jmelnyk@...>
>
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>Message: 1
>    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:18:31 -0000
>    From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
>Subject: Re: Machinedrum question
>
>Actualy, the MC-202 is slaved to the FR-777 via the cv/gate out.
>Mixing the two together givees a nice sound, similar to having a dual
>ocilator synth.  I dont have any samples as yet because things are a
>wreck here at the moment.  Once I have some I shall post them if you
>would like to hear.
>
>
>Bryan
>
>
>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
><d3berg@d...> wrote:
> > On Tue Jul 15 2003, ask <iceberg@t...> wrote:
> >
> > > This will be my live setup:
> > >
> > > Elektron Machinedrum
> > > E-MU E5000 Ultra sampler
> > > Future Retro 777 analog synth/sequencer
> > > Roland MC-202 analog synth
> > > Mackie DFX-12 console mixer
> >
> > Interesting! How will you be using the MC-202, loading sequences
>into
> > it between every track from cd? The rest of the gear seems to work
> > fine in a live situation, but not the 202.
> >
> > /Janne
>
>
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>Message: 2
>    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:22:52 -0000
>    From: "ask" <iceberg@...>
>Subject: Re: A few questions
>
>Thanks, that is the closer, I just need to fish together the moeny
>and I'll be placing my order, hopefuly within the next 2 months.
>It's hard waiting though, anyone need to buy a kidney?
>
>
>Bryan
>
>
>
>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald" <info@r...> wrote:
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ask" <iceberg@t...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The
> > > Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a
> > pain
> > > to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show
> > using
> > > pattern edit.
> >
> > Yes, midi is always send out (depending on the midi settings).
> > It's a very clever system because you can also send program changes
> > wich will only happen once untill another is encountered. This way
> > your connected gear won't reset the sound parameters every loop due
> > to the program change.
> >
> > Grtz Ronald.
>
>
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>Message: 3
>    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:27:41 +0200
>    From: "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...>
>Subject: Re: Re: Machinedrum question
>
>On Wed Jul 16 2003, ask <iceberg@...> wrote:
>
> > Actualy, the MC-202 is slaved to the FR-777 via the cv/gate out.
> > Mixing the two together givees a nice sound, similar to having a dual
> > ocilator synth.  I dont have any samples as yet because things are a
> > wreck here at the moment.  Once I have some I shall post them if you
> > would like to hear.
>
>Hmm... but the 777 does already have two oscs (plus two subs). What
>you get is a three oscs (and three subs), plus the 202 has cleaner
>sounds when going up in frequency.
>
>You get a 3 ms lag from the 202 as well. I've tried this by slaving
>the 202 from a 303 and recording the resulting sounds. Checked it in a
>waveform editor. :) A SH-101 seems to me like a much better choice if
>you can find it. A bit bigger though, which might make it impractical
>for gigging.
>
>And now, back to Elektron stuff.
>
>/Janne, has a 777 and 202 at home as well
>
>
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>Message: 4
>    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:17:22 -0400
>    From: Corey Appleby <digitalwank@...>
>Subject: Re: Re: Machinedrum question
>
>On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 08:08  PM, Matt Picone wrote:
>
> > Truly a creative machine. When/if Elektron add support for use with
> > dDrums, it will be the ultimate.
>
>I don't know anything about the dDrums but most electronic drum kits
>are just piezo elements mounted under some rubber.  I picked up a Casio
>DZ-1 on ebay for $30 (http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/casio_dz1.cfm)
>and have used it to convert my drumkit into MIDI.  I also learned a
>very valuable lesson that day...I have ZERO ability to play the drums
>:)  If the dDrums kit has normal phono outputs it's probably the
>standard trigger signal and can easily be converted into midi.
>
>hth,
>c.
>
>
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>Message: 5
>    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:30:58 -0400
>    From: "Matt Picone" <matman@...>
>Subject: RE: Re: Machinedrum question
>
> > I don't know anything about the dDrums...
> > the standard trigger signal and can easily be converted into midi.
>
>The first problem is that ddrums send a range of midi notes per
>instrument, not just one, for "positional sensing" on the heads.
>
>The second problem is that the hihats use the same note for open and
>closed-- the choice between them is made by a midi CC (selects and
>crossfades)
>
>The third problem is more of a limit, in that it's nice to be able to
>map velocity to something besides volume when playing pads.
>
>-M@
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>    Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:42:08 -0000
>    From: "Joe" <jmelnyk@...>
>Subject: Re: A few questions
>
>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "ask" <iceberg@t...> wrote:
> > Ok, before I sell off all my non-essential belongings to be able to
> > afford a MD, I have a few questions.
> >
> > 1) will the MD operate in-full while in pattern edit mode.  The
> > Roland TR-707 will not send midi data in this mode and thus is a
> > pain
> > to use for sequencing other instruments wile doing a live show using
> > pattern edit.
>
>yes, it sends MIDI data in pattern mode. which is what I almost always
>use, even when sequencing other gear. (it makes the machine just a bit
>more "live" to me.)
>
> > 2) while preforming in edit mode does the MD autosave the new
> > patterns?
>
>I don't know about "auto" save... see, if you are editing a pattern,
>then you're in record mode. so all changes made during that mode are
>saved.
>
>what it *does* do that's nice is if you are editing sounds of a given
>kit, it will save them between a restart. so you can edit a kit, turn
>the machine off then turn it back on and continue editing without
>having to save anything (because maybe you're not completely happy
>with a sound yet). but as soon as you load another kit (or pattern),
>the edited non-saved kit setting will be gone.
>
>I hope you figure out a way to get it; it's a terrific machine :-)
>Joe.
>
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