Elektron Musical Instruments

we have had this discussion before... it's because midi is crap.

and because the sidstation dosn't really have any memory its not a possible 
via straming or umn.. monkeys at all.

/Steven


>From: "Dr. W." Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com To: Subject: Re: 
>[elektron] Samples on Sidstation Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:05:50 -0700
>
>What the hell? I have no idea what you are talking about. The Sidstation 
>doesnt use samples. Anyone else get this?
>
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>-----Original Message----- From: phonophobie To: 
>elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:00 PM 
>Subject: [elektron] Samples on Sidstation
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>hi,
>
>can anyone tell why samples from all these tunes out there don\ufffdt work with 
>sidstation? i use asid and sidplay to play some samplebased tunes from high 
>voltage sid collection. when i go to sidstation- device no samples can be 
>heard! ... why? ... anyone? _phono
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The MOS 6581 is capable of playing back 8bit PCM samples. However to enable 
sample playback the SID needs to be fed sample data directly from some kind 
of memory. Back in the old days.. when SID's used to be tucked away neatly 
in the innards of the Commodore 64.. this memory was readily available. The 
SIDStation lacks this direct access RAM.. and thus cannot perform sample 
playback.

Pleeeezze correct me if I'm wrong.. I would be well pleased if I could make 
our SIDStation playback those classic "Outrun" or "Savage" samples.

CraZ

What the hell?  I have no idea what you are talking about.  The Sidstation
doesnt use samples.  Anyone else get this?

-----Original Message-----
From: phonophobie <sidstation@...>
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: [elektron] Samples on Sidstation


hi,

can anyone tell why samples from all these tunes out there don\ufffdt work
with sidstation? i use asid and sidplay to play some samplebased
tunes from high voltage sid collection. when i go to sidstation-
device no samples can be heard! ... why? ... anyone?
_phono




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you get a READY FOR RAM UPGRADE screen when you hit down while is ASID 
mode.. mabye this is a feature that elektron thought of intigrating into 
ASID as some point.

/Stteven


>From: CraZ <craz@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Samples on Sidstation
>Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 02:24:41 +0200
>
>The MOS 6581 is capable of playing back 8bit PCM samples. However to enable
>sample playback the SID needs to be fed sample data directly from some kind
>of memory. Back in the old days.. when SID's used to be tucked away neatly
>in the innards of the Commodore 64.. this memory was readily available. The
>SIDStation lacks this direct access RAM.. and thus cannot perform sample
>playback.
>
>Pleeeezze correct me if I'm wrong.. I would be well pleased if I could make
>our SIDStation playback those classic "Outrun" or "Savage" samples.
>
>CraZ
>




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On Thu Jul 04 2002, CraZ <craz@...> wrote:

> The MOS 6581 is capable of playing back 8bit PCM samples. 

*meeep* Wrong! :)

Sample playback on the C64 was acheived by changing the volume of the
SID chip rapidly, the volume register has 4 bits. Thus, it is 4 bit
samples.

> However to enable sample playback the SID needs to be fed sample
> data directly from some kind of memory.

True. The volume register needs to be updated quite often to achieve a
decent sample rate, i.e. all the time when playing a song with
samples, unless you would like even crappier sounds.

The Sidstation OS does not support playback of samples in any
way. Memory and OS reasons are the causes for this.

/Janne

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Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .

thanks for you answere.. so the problem seems to be the ram/memory  
and the os of sidstation. so we need a new os and better 
hardware..hehe.. . just wondering if there some freaks outthere 
who "circuitbend" the sidstation. [?]

anyway i am trying to make my own samples on c64. i never did this 
before - so it´s very hard to go ahead. are there any peeps who do 
this? somebody told me to use voicetracker for this. but i realy 
don´t know how to do it. can somebody help?

/\phono/\



 --- In elektron-users@y..., "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@d...> wrote:
> On Thu Jul 04 2002, CraZ <craz@t...> wrote:
> 
> > The MOS 6581 is capable of playing back 8bit PCM samples. 
> 
> *meeep* Wrong! :)
> 
> Sample playback on the C64 was acheived by changing the volume of 
the
> SID chip rapidly, the volume register has 4 bits. Thus, it is 4 bit
> samples.
> 
> > However to enable sample playback the SID needs to be fed sample
> > data directly from some kind of memory.
> 
> True. The volume register needs to be updated quite often to 
achieve a

> decent sample rate, i.e. all the time when playing a song with
> samples, unless you would like even crappier sounds.
> 
> The Sidstation OS does not support playback of samples in any
> way. Memory and OS reasons are the causes for this.
> 
> /Janne
> 
> -- 
> Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@d...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
>                                       .