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Re: [elektron] sound on sound

2004-03-16 by Gene Schwartz

I wrote about the 28 step pattern...

I think that you don't quite understand the spirit behind these requests.
The people who have made them all like the Monomachine very much (as far as
I can tell). However, there are still ways in which the user interface can
be improved in orde to aid creativity. Some improvements are not feasible
technically,  some might be contrary to the wishes of the majority of users,
and some might be specific to such a small minority that it isn't worth the
time and effort. In some of these cases, their is some workaround in which
the user could accomplish the desired goal, but because of the fact that the
workaround requires a different way of working altogether, it doesn't really
satisfy the goals of person who made the request.

In my case, I wanted to see the 14 step (or other length) step scales while
I was recording in pattern mode. One doesn't work the same way in song mode.
Therefore your solution (which I was certainly aware of) doesn't really
address my request at all. The improvement I requested would certainly help
me, though I would understand if no one else desired this change, or
Elektron thought that it would not be easy enough or impossible to
accomplish.

But before you minimize the requests of other users for improvements which
would really help them, think about the fact that it is not just the
eventual technical accomplishment, but the creative process that they might
be thinking about.

From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:22:03 -0000
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] sound on sound


Why dont you just set up the patterns to play this way.  I know what
you mean by being easier, but that doesn't mean you can't do it on
these sequencers.  Just make it a different machine and have it mute
and unmute and change as the song goes.  You could even have
evolving kits as you go.  Things could always be easier a different
way for each piece of gear, but you gotta work with what you got.
If it's getting too hard maybe you need to change your approach.

About the 28 step patterns just make two patterns of 14....

Alot of what's been said recentlly seems to me to not be impossible
on the MD at least.  Different pattern lengths, you are limited by
your longest pattern and in a chain it seems unlimited (more than 32
steps).

It's kind of like asking to have a better resolution on this step
pattern.

Just my opinion here.  I hope nobody lashes out at me.  I only have
the MD btw not MnM.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma"
<noision1@h...> wrote:
> That is what I liked so much about Megamix in the MC505 and even
better is X-MIX in the Command Stations. Pretty much how they
work!!! VERY VERY NICE
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joe 
>   To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:11 PM
>   Subject: Re: [elektron] sound on sound
> 
> 
>   On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:44:42PM -0000, starpawz612 wrote:
>   >    another thing LSDj does really well is pattern switching.
each of the
>   >    four channels can play one pattern at once, and you can
switch which
>   >    pattern each of the channels is playing indipendently of
each other.
>   >    it makes cueing and switching very easy ... if each of the
MnM's six
>   >    tracks could have individual patterns rather than a pattern
>   >    containing info for all six channels, that would be ruleing.
>   >    having patterns be able to play on channels rather than
channels play
>   >    in patterns also makes song composition go really quickly.
>   >    however i know the MnM is set up like a typical drum
machine/techno
>   >    box so perhaps people used to old machines would think this
is a wack
>   >    way of doing things.
> 
>   that would be fan-freakin-tastic! I'm happy as hell with the MnM
and MD
>   as is. but such a feature would take their sequencing ability
>   to a whole other level.
> 
>   >    so, back to the start ...for me the question is ... would
individual
>   >    patterns for each channel be technically feasible or is it
mearly a
>   >    pipe dream??? hehe
> 
>   someone asked in here before if it would be possible to
implement something
>   along those lines. that is, switch what a track within a pattern
is playing
>   while the other tracks play as normal. we were told "no" by
Elektron. but
>   I don't quite remember whether it was because it was impossible
or just
>   that they thought it would overcomplicate things.
> 
>   >    p.s. still havin good fun w/ the box, learning my way
around it a
>   >    lot, have come up with a track or two i like enough ... got
to do a
>   >    few more then i'll share he-heeeee
> 
>   be sure to!
> 
>   Joe
> 
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