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2014-05-31 by Skanter123
Hello all, Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
2014-05-31 by Bill Current Gmail
I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. Bill iPhone On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@...m> wrote: Hello all, Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
2014-05-31 by Skanter123
Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. > > Bill > > iPhone > > On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@gmail.com [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. > > http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > >
2014-05-31 by Bill Brandom
Sam, I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into "Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case. The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long. Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here. Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect. Bill
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From: Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States
Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology?
Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot.
Bill
iPhone
On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon.
http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/
Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-33042014-05-31 by Skanter123
Bill, I can't wait to try it for myself. I saw a few videos, but they don't really give much an idea of the experience. It seems that adding the digital piano to the acoustic would be fine, but the piano would have to be perfectly in tune with each other or there would be a chorusing effect. Are these pianos available yet in showrooms? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On May 31, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Bill Brandom billbrando@aol.com [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Sam, > > > I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into "Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case. > > The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long. > > Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here. > > Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States > > > Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology? > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. >> >> Bill >> >> iPhone >> >> On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. >> >> http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> > >
2014-05-31 by Skanter123
Another question - can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard, or only the internal sounds? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On May 31, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Sam, > > > I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into "Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case. > > The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long. > > Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here. > > Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States > > > Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology? > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. >> >> Bill >> >> iPhone >> >> On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. >> >> http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> > >
2014-05-31 by Bill Brandom
Bill, I can't wait to try it for myself. I saw a few videos, but they don't really give much an idea of the experience.It seems that adding the digital piano to the acoustic would be fine, but the piano would have to be perfectly in tune with each other or there would be a chorusing effect.
On May 31, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Sam,
I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into ";Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case.
The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long.
Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here.
Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Skanter123 skanter123@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States
Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology?
Sam
On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot.
Bill
iPhone
On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon.
http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/
Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
2014-05-31 by Skanter123
> The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. That might be easier said than done, as (according to my experience) acoustic pianos go slightly out of tune in different areas and registers. I don't think it would matter much when stacking different sounds to the acoustic piano, but I haven't had much luck stacking an acoustic piano to a digitally sampled one due to tuning issues. > You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! That's great! That way one could use sampled or synthesized sounds from anywhere. Great news! Now if only I could try one of these, than afford to buy one! :-) Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On May 31, 2014, at 3:04 PM, "Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Sam, > > For me, having an in-tune piano is what I want, whether it is in a standard acoustic piano or a Transducer piano. I believe the pitch of the piano, vs the pitch of the digital sounds is the more critical part. The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. > > You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! > > They are not available in stores yet. I believe the first couple production units have arrived in the US. Dealers should start receiving the U1TA uprights in their stores in the later summer/early fall. > > Bill > > >> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Bill, I can't wait to try it for myself. I saw a few videos, but they don't really give much an idea of the experience. >> >> It seems that adding the digital piano to the acoustic would be fine, but the piano would have to be perfectly in tune with each other or there would be a chorusing effect. >> >> Are these pianos available yet in showrooms? >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On May 31, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sam, >>> >>> >>> I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into "Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case. >>> >>> The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long. >>> >>> Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here. >>> >>> Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm >>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States >>> >>> >>> Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology? >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. >>>> >>>> http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>> >> > >
2014-05-31 by Bill Current Gmail
That is true. The better the piano is in tune, the better everything sounds. :) Then you have acoustic stretch to consider. The stretch of a good tuning on a U1 is different than, let's say a C3 grand, which is different than a 9' CFX Concert Grand. There are three different stretch settings available for the internal voices in the TransAcoustic piano, making the note to note matching of the digital to acoustic sound much closer. I can't wait for you to try one! I am very interested in knowing your impressions of the instrument. Bill iPhone On May 31, 2014, at 12:13 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. That might be easier said than done, as (according to my experience) acoustic pianos go slightly out of tune in different areas and registers. I don't think it would matter much when stacking different sounds to the acoustic piano, but I haven't had much luck stacking an acoustic piano to a digitally sampled one due to tuning issues. > You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! That's great! That way one could use sampled or synthesized sounds from anywhere. Great news! Now if only I could try one of these, than afford to buy one! :-) Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On May 31, 2014, at 3:04 PM, "Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi Sam, > > For me, having an in-tune piano is what I want, whether it is in a standard acoustic piano or a Transducer piano. I believe the pitch of the piano, vs the pitch of the digital sounds is the more critical part. The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. > > You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! > > They are not available in stores yet. I believe the first couple production units have arrived in the US. Dealers should start receiving the U1TA uprights in their stores in the later summer/early fall. > > Bill > > >> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Bill, I can't wait to try it for myself. I saw a few videos, but they don't really give much an idea of the experience. >> >> It seems that adding the digital piano to the acoustic would be fine, but the piano would have to be perfectly in tune with each other or there would be a chorusing effect. >> >> Are these pianos available yet in showrooms? >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On May 31, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sam, >>> >>> >>> I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into "Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case. >>> >>> The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long. >>> >>> Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here. >>> >>> Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm >>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States >>> >>> >>> Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology? >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. >>>> >>>> http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304
2014-05-31 by Skanter123
> There are three different stretch settings available for the internal voices in the TransAcoustic piano, making the note to note matching of the digital to acoustic sound much closer. Pianoteq's modeled piano lets you tune each key individually, and gives you total control over every parameter of a piano's construction. You can model a 40-foot piano if you want! Unfortunately, IMO the sound, while very good and expressive, is not quite as realistic as state-of-the sampled pianos like Synthogy Ivory's 50GB American Concert D. I use this with my U1 DKV, I wonder how it would sound with a TA instrument? > I can't wait for you to try one! I am very interested in knowing your impressions of the instrument. I can't wait myself! I'll call Faust-Harrison and see when they might be getting a U1PA TE. BTW, are you in any of the NAMM demo videos? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On May 31, 2014, at 3:25 PM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@gmail.com [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > That is true. The better the piano is in tune, the better everything sounds. :) > > Then you have acoustic stretch to consider. The stretch of a good tuning on a U1 is different than, let's say a C3 grand, which is different than a 9' CFX Concert Grand. > > There are three different stretch settings available for the internal voices in the TransAcoustic piano, making the note to note matching of the digital to acoustic sound much closer. > > I can't wait for you to try one! I am very interested in knowing your impressions of the instrument. > > Bill > > iPhone > > On May 31, 2014, at 12:13 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > >> The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. > > That might be easier said than done, as (according to my experience) acoustic pianos go slightly out of tune in different areas and registers. I don't think it would matter much when stacking different sounds to the acoustic piano, but I haven't had much luck stacking an acoustic piano to a digitally sampled one due to tuning issues. > >> You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! > > > That's great! That way one could use sampled or synthesized sounds from anywhere. Great news! Now if only I could try one of these, than afford to buy one! :-) > > > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > >> On May 31, 2014, at 3:04 PM, "Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Sam, >> >> For me, having an in-tune piano is what I want, whether it is in a standard acoustic piano or a Transducer piano. I believe the pitch of the piano, vs the pitch of the digital sounds is the more critical part. The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. >> >> You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! >> >> They are not available in stores yet. I believe the first couple production units have arrived in the US. Dealers should start receiving the U1TA uprights in their stores in the later summer/early fall. >> >> Bill >> >> >>> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Bill, I can't wait to try it for myself. I saw a few videos, but they don't really give much an idea of the experience. >>> >>> It seems that adding the digital piano to the acoustic would be fine, but the piano would have to be perfectly in tune with each other or there would be a chorusing effect. >>> >>> Are these pianos available yet in showrooms? >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 31, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Sam, >>>> >>>> >>>> I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into "Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case. >>>> >>>> The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long. >>>> >>>> Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here. >>>> >>>> Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>> Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. >>>>> >>>>> http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ >>>>> >>>>> Sam >>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
2014-05-31 by Bill Brandom
I am sure it would sound really good! Bill iPhone On May 31, 2014, at 12:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > There are three different stretch settings available for the internal voices in the TransAcoustic piano, making the note to note matching of the digital to acoustic sound much closer. Pianoteq's modeled piano lets you tune each key individually, and gives you total control over every parameter of a piano's construction. You can model a 40-foot piano if you want! Unfortunately, IMO the sound, while very good and expressive, is not quite as realistic as state-of-the sampled pianos like Synthogy Ivory's 50GB American Concert D. I use this with my U1 DKV, I wonder how it would sound with a TA instrument? > I can't wait for you to try one! I am very interested in knowing your impressions of the instrument. I can't wait myself! I'll call Faust-Harrison and see when they might be getting a U1PA TE. BTW, are you in any of the NAMM demo videos? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On May 31, 2014, at 3:25 PM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@...m> wrote: > > > That is true. The better the piano is in tune, the better everything sounds. :) > > Then you have acoustic stretch to consider. The stretch of a good tuning on a U1 is different than, let's say a C3 grand, which is different than a 9' CFX Concert Grand. > > There are three different stretch settings available for the internal voices in the TransAcoustic piano, making the note to note matching of the digital to acoustic sound much closer. > > I can't wait for you to try one! I am very interested in knowing your impressions of the instrument. > > Bill > > iPhone > > On May 31, 2014, at 12:13 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > >> The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. > > That might be easier said than done, as (according to my experience) acoustic pianos go slightly out of tune in different areas and registers. I don't think it would matter much when stacking different sounds to the acoustic piano, but I haven't had much luck stacking an acoustic piano to a digitally sampled one due to tuning issues. > >> You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! > > > That's great! That way one could use sampled or synthesized sounds from anywhere. Great news! Now if only I could try one of these, than afford to buy one! :-) > > > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > >> On May 31, 2014, at 3:04 PM, "Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Sam, >> >> For me, having an in-tune piano is what I want, whether it is in a standard acoustic piano or a Transducer piano. I believe the pitch of the piano, vs the pitch of the digital sounds is the more critical part. The pitch of the internal digital sounds can easily be changed to match the pitch of the piano. >> >> You asked, "Can outside digital samples be applied to the soundboard?" Absolutely they can. It is just a matter of sending the samples through the TransAcoustic audio input. I have tried it. It works wonderfully! >> >> They are not available in stores yet. I believe the first couple production units have arrived in the US. Dealers should start receiving the U1TA uprights in their stores in the later summer/early fall. >> >> Bill >> >> >>> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Bill, I can't wait to try it for myself. I saw a few videos, but they don't really give much an idea of the experience. >>> >>> It seems that adding the digital piano to the acoustic would be fine, but the piano would have to be perfectly in tune with each other or there would be a chorusing effect. >>> >>> Are these pianos available yet in showrooms? >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 31, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Sam, >>>> >>>> >>>> I have been with Yamaha nearly 35 years. During those years I have seen lots of cool Yamaha stuff. The TransAcoustic pianos are up there at the top of the list. Briefly, these acoustic pianos incorporate Yamaha Silent SH technology. As a result, you have nearly 20 different digital voices to select from that can be heard using headphones or played through the transducers attached to the soundboard. The first voice is a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano sample that sounds incredibly "real." When playing the piano in TransAcoustic mode, you have the option of leaving the piano in "acoustic" mode and adding these voices as layers on top of the acoustic sound or the piano can be put into "Silent" mode and then you only hear the digital voice emitting from the piano. I have heard some people (and even Yamaha) describe that the "soundboard is turned into a speaker." Actually, the result is much bigger than that. The ENTIRE piano is turned into a speaker. This incorporates everything in the acoustic piano that enhances the sound of the piano - the soundboard, the strings, acoustic string resonance and even the case. >>>> >>>> The result is sound coming from the piano that surrounds you in the same way that sound does when playing an "acoustic-only" piano. Adding a 9' CFX piano sample to the acoustic sound of a Yamaha U1 upright, makes it sound like the piano is 9' long. >>>> >>>> Now I am starting to sound like a Yamaha commercial, which is not my intent here. >>>> >>>> Let me put it this way. You need to hear and experience a TransAcoustic piano to understand what I am talking about. It's a little like trying to describe the Grand Canyon to someone that has never seen it. No matter how you describe it, actually experiencing it is much bigger than one would expect. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>> Sent: Fri, May 30, 2014 11:44 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns the Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill, how would you describe the innovative aspects of this technology? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 31, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Bill Current Gmail bill.brandom03@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did the TransAcoustic Piano demos for Yamaha at this year's NAMM show. I have heard them a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone heard the transacoustic pianos? Sounds interesting. Probably not yet in DKVs, though I assume this technology will make it there soon. >>>>> >>>>> http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/pianos_keyboard/yamaha_u1ta_pe_upright_piano/ >>>>> >>>>> Sam >>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>> (212) 684-3304
2014-06-01 by rightnightboy@...
2014-06-01 by Bill Current Gmail
I believe they become available in Europe about the same time they do in the US, sometime late this summer or early fall. Bill iPhone On May 31, 2014, at 10:21 PM, "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello Bill Any idea of availability or viewing possibility in europe ?
2014-06-01 by Owen Sayers
Here is a link from the UK – September 2014 expected http://www.yamahamusiclondon.com/P~YAM-U1TA-PE~U1TA-TransAcoustic-Upright-Piano
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] Sent: 01 June 2014 16:26 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns th e Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States I believe they become available in Europe about the same time they do in the US, sometime late this summer or early fall. Bill iPhone On May 31, 2014, at 10:21 PM, "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello Bill Any idea of availability or viewing possibility in europe ?
2014-06-01 by James Fry
Here is a link from the UK – September 2014 expected
http://www.yamahamusiclondon.com/P~YAM-U1TA-PE~U1TA-TransAcoustic-Upright-Piano
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 01 June 2014 16:26
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Yamaha U1TA PE Upright Piano Turns th e Soundboard Into One Big Loudspeaker, Thanks to ‘TransAcoustic’ Technology - Pianos & Keyboards - News & Events - Yamaha United States
I believe they become available in Europe about the same time they do in the US, sometime late this summer or early fall.
Bill
iPhone
On May 31, 2014, at 10:21 PM, "rightnightboy@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello Bill
Any idea of availability or viewing possibility in europe ?