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Re: [disklavier] Fire damaged Disklavier

2014-12-11 by clays91740@...

Dear Spencer,
 
Thank you for taking your time to provide me with so much excellent  
information.  Are there circuit boards inside the piano itself as well as  the 
wagon and DSR-1?
 
Clay
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2014 11:51:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
disklavier@yahoogroups.com writes:

 
 
 
i have not had experience with a piano in a house fire but did have a  
workshop fire and a lot of equipment exposed to smoke that has similarities to  
the stuff in an electronically controlled piano. 

not much burned in  the fire, but there was a little plastic that did burn 
. it made stinky soot  that covered everything. Servicemaster cleaned 
everything but i had to do the  electronics. i had a cnc milling machine and other 
stuff that insurance would  not pay much for so i took all the electronics 
apart and cleaned that stuff  myself. i doubt that anyone other than a very 
expensive "professional;" would  have taken the care to do it right. 
everything still works. there are smoke  stains on somw metal parts that are 
impossible to remove and wood stuff fared  even worse.

A DKV will have all the aspects of the worst stuff to try  to save in my 
workshop and i think you will not be happy with the results  which will 
probably cost a fortune. probably better to scrap it if you can  convince the 
insurance company to pay much of anything for it. get some advise  as to how to 
deal with the insurance company. most likely they will depreciate  a 1992 
piano to almost nothing. if you have an actual replacement cost policy  you 
may do well but there are all sorts of exclusions and the company will  likely 
to try their best to avoid paying much.

if you are going to try  to save the piano yourself, at minimum you would 
need to examine all circuit  boards and clean them. except for certain 
components that may hold water  forever, you can actually wash most of this stuff 
in appropriate detergeants  as long as you do not connect power to anything 
until you know it is  completely dry. i have a vacuum oven so i could dry 
slowly under vacuum. all  connectors including socketed chips should be 
removed and lubricated with a  contact cleaner/lube that contains polphenyl ether. 
felt parts might have to  be replaced. wooden cabinet parts can probably be 
cleaned well enough, without  damage that they won't smell too much. action 
parts are going to be hopeless  if they got much of a dose of smoke.
wound strings could probably be  cleaned but replacement is probably a 
better option. 

ozone does an  amazing job of neutralizing smoke odors. a "professional" 
would tent the piano  and apply ozone for hours or days as needed. as more 
smoke odor comes out of  wooden and other porous parts this will need to be 
repeated. i elected to not  have the drywall and insulation removed and 
replaced in my workshop and 2  years later there is still a lingering smell. i made 
an ozone generator  (really easy, you can find plans online) and run it 
occasionally if the smoke  odor is especially bad. just a few hours helps. 
ozone is very corrosive to  metal parts especially steel and iron so you have to 
limit its use. there are  also miracle products that "neutralize" odors and 
some are very effective but  they leave their own very strong odor for a 
while.  i like XO which is a  little difficult to find but Amazon probably has 
it. Vets use it to neutralize  anal sac contents when they squeeze your 
dog's sacs so it can neutralize  anything :)



On 12/11/2014 6:39 AM, _clays91740@..._ (mailto:clays91740@...)  
[disklavier]  wrote:



Hello Group,
 
My DG-1 (wagon grand) and DSR-1 were exposed to very heavy smoke and  soot 
in a fire at my home.  I'm not sure if it still works or  not.  I'm 
wondering if any one on the list has had any experience with  any like this.
 
I purchased the piano new in 1992 and really want to keep  it.  I 
appreciate any information available.
 
Clay Shelton
Petersburg,  VA 



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