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I am starting to consider replacing my aging CRT with an LCD that 
supports full color management.  Right now I am looking at the LaCie, 
EIZO and NEC monitors.  Does the Sypder2 Pro work with these or will I 
have to go with their caibration tools?

I would also be interested in any recommendations on LCD monitors that 
have full color management capabilities.

Thanks,
Rollin

>>I am starting to consider replacing my aging CRT with an LCD that
supports full color management.  Right now I am looking at the LaCie,
EIZO and NEC monitors.  Does the Sypder2 Pro work with these or will I
have to go with their caibration tools?

Spyder2 hardware can be used with Eizo's Color Navigator software to 
utilize their internal monitor tables on their top end displays. Or you 
can use the Spyder2PRO hardware and software with any of these monitors 
to calibrate and profile them, without any proprietary internal stuff.

>>I would also be interested in any recommendations on LCD monitors 
that
have full color management capabilities.

That depends on that you mean by "full color management capabilities"; 
typically CRT users expect all the controls of a CRT on an LCD and are 
dissappointed to find that most of them have no actual hardware-based 
controls at all, except for a backlight control. Those who love to get 
under the hood and mess with things aren't happy to find so little 
under the hood. For instance, most LCDs have no true brightness 
adjustment, so you can't match the black point between two LCDs. But 
since most reasonable quality LCDs have pretty similar black points, 
its not the end of the world. Typically, with LCDs, you set the 
backlight to the appropriate level, and let the software control the 
whitepoint, gamma, and graybalance, and the profile define the color 
primaries, and that pretty much takes care of it. Not as much fun as 
the old days when you could change the condensor cap, clean the points, 
and adjust the spark gap on the plugs, but most of us have learned to 
live with electronic fuel injection and/or LCD displays. <G>

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision, Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Rollin <rhill3@...>
To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 1:19 pm
Subject: [colorvision_group] Spyder2Pro Support for LaCie, EIZO and NEC






I am starting to consider replacing my aging CRT with an LCD that
supports full color management.  Right now I am looking at the LaCie,
EIZO and NEC monitors.  Does the Sypder2 Pro work with these or will I
have to go with their caibration tools?

I would also be interested in any recommendations on LCD monitors that
have full color management capabilities.

Thanks,
Rollin




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--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>> That depends on that you mean by "full color management 
capabilities"; 
> typically CRT users expect all the controls of a CRT on an LCD and 
> are dissappointed to find that most of them have no actual hardware-
> based controls at all, except for a backlight control. Those who 
> love to get  under the hood and mess with things aren't happy to 
> find so little under the hood. For instance, most LCDs have no true 
> brightness adjustment, so you can't match the black point between 
> two LCDs. 
> But since most reasonable quality LCDs have pretty similar black 
> points, its not the end of the world. Typically, with LCDs, you set 
> the backlight to the appropriate level, and let the software 
> control the whitepoint, gamma, and graybalance, and the profile 
> define the color primaries, and that pretty much takes care of it. 
> Not as much fun as the old days when you could change the condensor 
> cap, clean the points, and adjust the spark gap on the plugs, but 
> most of us have learned to live with electronic fuel injection 
> and/or LCD displays. <G>

What I meant by "full color management" (I agree a bit of a sloppy 
term on my part) was a monitor that could be calibrated using 
software/hardware to use in a color managed photography workflow 
where I will be printing my images.  I will be using Photoshop and 
soft proofing on the monitor using printer profiles created with 
Printfix Pro. I want to use a monitor that gets me as close as 
possible to where what I see on the monitor is what the printed image 
will look like (given the difference in the different media).

I have been looking at monitors such as the LaCie 321 and 526 LCD, 
the EIZO CG211 and CG221, and NEC Multisynch LCD 2180WG-LED, 2090UXi, 
2490UXi monitors.

Thanks,
Rollin

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>> That depends on that you mean by "full color management 
capabilities"; 
> typically CRT users expect all the controls of a CRT on an LCD and 
> are dissappointed to find that most of them have no actual hardware-
> based controls at all, except for a backlight control. Those who 
> love to get  under the hood and mess with things aren't happy to 
> find so little under the hood. For instance, most LCDs have no true 
> brightness adjustment, so you can't match the black point between 
> two LCDs. 
> But since most reasonable quality LCDs have pretty similar black 
> points, its not the end of the world. Typically, with LCDs, you set 
> the backlight to the appropriate level, and let the software 
> control the whitepoint, gamma, and graybalance, and the profile 
> define the color primaries, and that pretty much takes care of it. 
> Not as much fun as the old days when you could change the condensor 
> cap, clean the points, and adjust the spark gap on the plugs, but 
> most of us have learned to live with electronic fuel injection 
> and/or LCD displays. <G>

What I meant by "full color management" (I agree a bit of a sloppy 
term on my part) was a monitor that could be calibrated using 
software/hardware to use in a color managed photography workflow 
where I will be printing my images.  I will be using Photoshop and 
soft proofing on the monitor using printer profiles created with 
Printfix Pro. I want to use a monitor that gets me as close as 
possible to where what I see on the monitor is what the printed image 
will look like (given the difference in the different media).

I have been looking at monitors such as the LaCie 321 and 526 LCD, 
the EIZO CG211 and CG221, and NEC Multisynch LCD 2180WG-LED, 2090UXi, 
2490UXi monitors.

Thanks,
Rollin

>>What I meant by "full color management" (I agree a bit of a sloppy
term on my part) was a monitor that could be calibrated using
software/hardware to use in a color managed photography workflow
where I will be printing my images.

Then any of the ones you note would work well for your uses, with 
appropriate amblent light, appropriate settings, and perhaps a bit of 
tuning of the printer profile softproof functions.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision, Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com
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