Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Well I still have issues with an overall red cast to prints using this profile.

The test prints within Spyder3 Print are fine, especially the quadrant with faces and skintones. This must indicate that the profile is working, yet output from CS5 and Lightroom 3 have a distinct red cast and are darker than the profiled monitor.

Printing using CS5 and the profile but, with the Epson driver handling the printing,  results in good prints and better than the Epson stock profiles. Ditto for Lightroom. 

I am printing with an Epson R1800 which uses Epson's drivers which are indicated for Snow Leopard but which are not in Apple's supported/incuded Snow Leopard drivers for Epson.I am wondering if these unsupported printers won't manage the workflow as well as ones that are so-called supported.

Maybe it is time for a 3880 which I understand is well supported in Snow Leopard. 



--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:24 PM, grandpollo wrote:
> 
> > Hi folks. It's been a while since I last successfully profiled, in 1.05X and using CS3. Now I have 10.6.4 and CS5.
> > 
> > So I did new profiles today and sure enough following old instructions, the targets (2 page EZ) looked good and not "dark and broody".
> 
> That therefore sounds wrong, because you want the target to look "dark and broody", not "good"...:-)
> 
> > 
> > So I need to double triple check - in 10.6.X I have to , for printing the targets within Spyder 3 Print - 
> > 
> > 1. Under the print dialog option - Color Matching - pick Epson Color Controls and NOT Colorsync
> 
> Right.
> 
> > 
> > 2. Under the Print Settings dialog and specifically the Color Settings pulldown I select Off (No Color Adjustment) and NOT Color Controls (with its options of Epson Vivid, Epson Standard and AdobeRGB)
> > 
> 
> Right.
> 
> > The first time I printed the settings were:
> > 
> > 1. Epson Color Controls
> > 2. Epson Standard
> > 
> > Result being a quite nice looking target that was a range of colors and hues.
> > 
> > So I am changing to :
> > 
> > 1. Epson Color Controls
> > 2. Off (No Color Adjustment)
> > 
> 
> That's the right way to print the target.
> 
> > Which rendered a target that was quite dark in Page 1 rows 2-3-4 and ABCD 7-12 (the largest observed differences) and Page 2 all 4 quadrants especially A-E rows 7-12.
> > 
> 
> Perfect.
> 
> > The profile from attempt #1 rendered prints very dark, very red. I am now trying to measure and create a new profile with these two setting set as mentioned.
> > 
> > Am I on the right track? 
> 
> Yes. You should be fine with a profile built from measuring attempt #2. Your first target
> print was color managed; it built a "do nothing" profile; so when you tried to use it for
> printing, the profile did very little and the result was a dark, too-warm, print.
> 
> With the new target print, the profile will be correct, and it will give you the proper results.
> 
> David Miller
> Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
> Datacolor
>