Datacolor User to User Support Group.

On Aug 13, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Rick Ryan wrote:

> I am using Epson Premium Glossy Photo Paper and the standard Epson  
> R1800 Inks.

Thats a very deep combination, you should expect raw results to be  
very dark; even profiled results may be deeper than you want, if you  
aren't displaying under bright lighting...

> When I printed the 225 sample page all of the colors seemed much  
> darker than the image on the screen and when in the sampling screen  
> the "Measured" colors also looked much darker than the "Pure".

Correct...

> I have not yet tried printing the Softproof images from  
> SpyderPrint3, but will try that today once I buy some more paper.  I  
> suspect the results will be the same from SpyderPrint3 as from CS4,  
> but I will give it a try.

Its a crosscheck of your Photoshop settings...

> Is there any way to print the SpyderProof image from CS4 (is there a  
> file(s) for the image(s) on the install disk?)?

In the Spyder3Print folder is a Test Image folder, with a copy of the  
matrix of test images, tagged AdobeRGB, for cross testing from other  
apps...

> I am trying to be methodical and based on the info in the Help on  
> the Media Setting Quality, it seemed to imply there was something to  
> adjust in the print driver first before making the 225 sample print.

Yes, but with that printer, those inks, and that paper, as you have  
seen, ALL media settings are pretty heavy. If one offers a bit better  
shadow detail than the others, I'd chose it, otherwise they may all be  
about the same.

>  I tried "Best Photo" and "Best Photo RPM", but didn't see much  
> difference. I also tried reinstalling the latest R1800 drivers from  
> Epson, just in case there was some problem there, but noticed no  
> change.  I also tried Ultra Premium Luster as a paper type to see if  
> that would lighten the image, but didn't see much change with that  
> either.

No, all the gloss/luster papers will be fairly similar that way. If  
you try a good art matte media, then you'll see some differences!

> I haven't tried any of the post sampling adjustments to the profile  
> (e.g. Brightness & Contrast) yet, but will give that a try (I have  
> to go out this morning and buy some more paper :-))
> I will give that a try when I return.

Definitely the next step. And remember to view images under bright  
proofing light as well; if you only view under dim light, they will  
look dark and clogged, by definition!

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
CDTobie@...