Datacolor User to User Support Group.

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>
> >>> As for nonp-color managed apps; as long as you calibrate to 
> 2.2/6500,
> > you'll get about as good color from them as is possible. But 
you'll
> > only get the profile in addition to the calibration in color 
aware 
> apps
> > like Photoshop.
> 
> >Not sure what you mean.  Are you saying I won't get the 
calibration in 
> the other apps
> 
> >but only photoshop?
> 
> No, you'll get the video calibration in all apps; its just the 
profile 
> definition you won't get in anthing but Photoshop and other color 
> managed apps...
> 
> 
> >Let's say I don't use photoshop or do any kind of photo editing
> 
> > but I want my monitor to show the
> 
> >correct colors and 2.2/6500 and D50 doesn't work.  I thought a 
> hardware calibrator such
> 
> >as the Spyder would correct it.


> 
> It will neutralize your grays, and make your midtones midtone, but 
it 
> can't fix the definitions of the color primaries, as that is the 
job of 
> the profile. 
>That was one of the things that Windows hoped to fix with 
> Vista, but didn't manage to include: some way to assume something 
other 
> than sRGB at the OS level so that wide gamut monitors don't 
> oversaturate colors. We, similarly, are working on using the 
monitor 
> profile, not just the calibration data, in our Before and After 
window, 
> so that (again) wide gamut monitors will not be oversaturated, even 
in 
> After mode, as they are now.

It sounds like you are agreeing with others that calibrating will not 
solve my problem and don't expect Windows apps to look anything like 
Photoshop...is that correct?
It also sounds like you are working on a fix..."so that wide gamut 
monitors will not be overstaturated, even in After mode, as they are 
now."...is that correct too?
> 
> >
> > >>Photoshop does recognize the new profile. Here is the difference
> > between a desktop and web image vs. photoshop/print.
> >
> > >>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...spydervs-1.jpg
> >
> > Link not valid, but it sounds like you are half way there. Are you
> > calibrating to 2.2/6500? What other settings and adjustments are 
you
> > using?
> 
> >2.2/6500, D50, Native White point
> 
> >Maybe this link to picture will work. It does when I hit Preview
> 
> >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/mcennis3/spydervs-1.jpg
> 
> >Thanks for your help! I didn't expect this kind of problem with 
such 
> an expensive monitor.
> 
> >I'm wondering if the wider gamut is the problem. They sent me a 
new 
> one but it made no
> 
> >difference.
> 
> Yes, the oversaturation you are seeing in non-profiled locations is 
> most likely caused by the wider gamut. You can prove this for 
yourself. 
> Open the PDI test image in Photoshop, and do a "Convert to Profile" 
> choosing your monitor profile as the output space. Then save a copy 
> ("PDI WideGamutRGB") and view THAT in a noncolor managed 
enviromment. 
> This would be the equivalent of viewing in an app that converts for 
> you. Should eliminate the problem, if what I see in your sample 
images 
> is what I think I'm seeing. Usually its the yellows, greens, and 
Cyans 
> that are most effected, but you seem to have a extra saturated red 
as 
> well...

Have you experienced this problem with the 3007fpw(non-HC)? Again, it 
sounds like the Spyder (or any other calibrator) was not the solution 
to my problem.
Thanks again for the info.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision, Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
> 
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