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FZ-1 cable - CORRECTION - you need a male to female cable. Just checked!

Cheers, Graham

--- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "Graham" wrote:
>
> Hi Joscelyn!
>
> Yes that was the picture I saw that made me think there was a rack - I wonder if it was a production model??
>
> Casio FZ cable - OK, I know about this. I believe you need a male/male cable, but the wiring is NOT the same as normal PC to PC cable.
>
> Here is the web page describing it:
>
> http://www.sequencer.de/syns/casio/FZ1_Fz10m_Fz20m.html
>
> (The FZ section of this page is towards the bottom - it describes the pinouts.)
>
> Check with Biggi to find out if this cable of hers has been wired in this way. Apparently you can do damage to the FZ if it is not correct.
>
> I have put a schematic of the cable in the FZ folder in the FILES section, as well as the dumping program FZ dump used to communicate with the FZ and the PC. I have NEVER tried to use it yet because I haven't found anyone to confirm that my drawing is correct - I haven't been game to try it until I do. If Biggi actually has a working cable, then maybe you can confirm these pinouts.
>
> If this setup can be confirmed to work then this is a holy grail for the FZ because all the FZ samples can now be stored on PC instead of FZ floppy - and with the parallel connection instead of MIDI, the sample sumps will take seconds rather than minutes with MIDI dump. I hope we can crack this, I've been waiting years for this!
>
> Cheers, graham
>
>
>;
> --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, JFlores wrote:
> >
> > Hi Graham,
> >
> > It turns out you were right ! there is/was a Casio rack for the DZ MIDI
> > drum kit, I just found a picture of it :
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilvance/3969272402/in/set-72157622363304823/
> > (plenty of nice Casio stuff pictures of their pro gear, by the way on that
> > Flickr photostream)
> >
> > I haven't yet found out if there was any reference, never saw one on the
> > casio flyers and catalogues...
>; >
> > By the way, I had a question : I have been looking for ages for an elusive
> > 25-pin cable for the Casio FZ sampler and it turns out Biggi does have one
> > - er, in fact two of them, one of each kind : male/male and male/female,
> > both with 25 pins at each end. Do you perhaps have a clue on which one
> > could be the good one ? I thought one cable was enough both for FZ-FZ and
> > FZ-PC communications, but it seems not to be the case.
> > If you have ANY idea it will be most welcome.
> >
> > By the way, I try atteching the two pictures of the cables, let me know if
> > they reach you -
> > thanks for your insight :)
> > Kind regards,
> > Joscelyn
> >
>; >
> > 2013/1/20 Graham
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Joscelyn, you sound like a girl after my own heart! You have some great
> > > Casio gear! No, my kit isn't the one on the picture, but mine are brand new
> > > old stock - never been played. The other 3 pads I bought later are second
> > > hand and had a fair bit of use, but cleaned up well. Amazing that you found
> > > 2 kits!
> > >
> > > I actually bought mine from Germany - there was no chance of finding them
> > > in Australia. It sounds like from both our experience that the most common
> > > place to see them is Europe. It appears that there is a drum rack for them
> > > made by Casio (or at least has a Casio logo on it). I have a picture of it
> > > in a 1987 Casio brochure somewhere.
> > >
> > > Here's my list of Casios I have:
> > >
> > > FZ-1
> > > SK-8
> > > RAP-1 Rapman
> > > DZ drums (6 pads, 2 kicks)
> > > DP-1 dual drum pads set (6 of them!)
> > > Casio DH100 digital sax
> > > EG-5 cassette guitar
> > > PG-380 synth guitar
> > > VZ-10M rack synth (VZ-1 in a rack)
> > > CZ-101
> > > SS-1 sound sticks
> > > DG20 digital guitar
> > > AZ-1
> > >
> > > And still looking for others!
> > >
> > > Wow you've had most of the really big ones. I love my FZ-1, it is the
> > > center piece of my MIDI setup in my studio, had it for nearly 20 years. I
> > > also have the complete set of Casio Shareware Collection samples for it -
> > > about 140MB of samples. I'll put them up soon.
> > >
> > > I have a great deal of manuals, I'm in the process of putting them up
> > > here, or at least to links to where they are parked on my bands website:
> > >
> > > http://www.warningwillrobinson.com.au/index_files/InstrumentManuals.htm
> > >
> > > I have a lot of them, even what is on my band's website is only a small
> > > amount. If you have any requests, just let me know and I'll see if i have
> > > them! And if you have any, you're welcome to put them up here!
> > >
> > > Cheers, Graham
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, JFlores wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your warm welcome ! I am from France, that's quite a long way
> > > > far :)
> > > > You are right, these drumkits are as rare as hen's teeth ! However, I
> > > have
> > > > found that some places in the world have been better treated than others
> > > in
> > > > terms of Casio product coverage - Australia is definitely one of them
> > > >
> > > > Guess what, it is my second one ! The first I found in Italy, and sold it
> > > > to a friend in latvia (or estonia, don't remember right now) who just
> > > like
> > > > lucky you, has the most badass drumkit setup I know of : TWO full sets, i
> > > > stopped talking to him when he sent me the picture (joking of course) -
> > > > both were used, but well cared units. I assume the picture of the pads on
> > > > the forum is your set, they are shiny and beautiful
> > > >
> > > > I have been lucky enough in finding a second one for myself (one kick
> > > > w/legs and 4 pads) and comes from Austria (or Germany), but it also came
> > > > without the rack, which I never saw anywhere by the way... not sure if
> > > > there even was a Casio reference for it ? It came however without the
> > > DZ-1
> > > > unit, which I luckily found like a year later on eBay USA
> > > >
> > > > I really love these vintage synths - I loved them when they came out, but
> > > > since I was young I had not enough revenues to buy most of them -
> > > > Now that I have grown up (smile), I have owned most of them like CZ-3000
> > > ,
> > > > FZ-10M and FZ-1 (still have this), VZ-1, two AZ-1 (sold to friends), and
> > > > also an RZ-1 which I loved, and a pair of SZ-1 for those CZ keyboards
> > > > without included sequencer :)
> > > > So from time to time I like snooping around if I see some manuals, both
> > > > user- and service-, can become handy one day - and I found your Yahoo
> > > > Group, which is great !
> > > > Is there any way I can contribute : any needed files or manuals perhaps ?
> > > > Just curious : what other Casio stuuf do you own ?
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Joscelyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/1/20 Graham
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey wow, Jocelyn!! That's amazing. I only know of one other Casio drum
> > > > > kit, these things are so rare. I recently got another 3 separate pads
> > > off
> > > > > ebay, so I now have 6 pads and 2 kick pads.
> > > > >;
> > > > > Did you get yours with the real Casio rack frame? Mine was only pads
> > > -I'm
> > > >; > using a Yamaha drum rack frame to mount them. Sure like to get hold of
> > > the
> > > > > real Casio frame sometime. And also the DZ drum brain. And an RZ-1.
> > > > >; and....and...
> > > > >
> > > > > What part of the world are you from? I'm in Australia.
> > >; > >
> > > > > Cheers, Graham
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "casiofp" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I joined this forum after doing a search on the DZ manual which I
> > > found,
> > > > > joy !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Graham for creating this group and taking the time to scan and
> > > > > share this manual - I also own a full Casio Drumkit, and know how it
> > > feels:
> > > > > great ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joscelyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "Graham" wrote:
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > They plug into the DZ-1 pad module, which doesn't have any sounds
> > > of
> > > > > its own - it is a pad to MIDI converter, which you then plug any MIDI
> > > drum
> > > > > machine/MIDI sound module into to play the sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers, Graham
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "montequi"; wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > >; > > > > Do you just have the pads, or does it plug into a sound module?
> > > I'm
> > > > > curious what it sounds like.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "Graham" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well I just scored the buy of the century..not as in cheap
> > > bargain
> > > > > (it was quite expensive) but in buying something very rare - a full
> > > set of
> > > > > Casio DZ20/30 drum pads! Never used, brand new condition! The main
> > > picture
> > > > > on this site is an example of a set (although it actually has a couple
> > > more
> > > > > toms than my 4 pads + kick). Very pleased - I've dreamed of having a
> > > set
> > > > > for my collection for a long time!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers, Graham
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >;
> > >
> >
>

FZ-1 cable - CORRECTION - you need a male to female cable. Just checked!

Cheers, Graham

--- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "Graham" wrote:
>
> Hi Joscelyn!
>
> Yes that was the picture I saw that made me think there was a rack - I wonder if it was a production model??
>
> Casio FZ cable - OK, I know about this. I believe you need a male/male cable, but the wiring is NOT the same as normal PC to PC cable.
>
> Here is the web page describing it:
>
> http://www.sequencer.de/syns/casio/FZ1_Fz10m_Fz20m.html
>
> (The FZ section of this page is towards the bottom - it describes the pinouts.)
>
> Check with Biggi to find out if this cable of hers has been wired in this way. Apparently you can do damage to the FZ if it is not correct.
>
> I have put a schematic of the cable in the FZ folder in the FILES section, as well as the dumping program FZ dump used to communicate with the FZ and the PC. I have NEVER tried to use it yet because I haven't found anyone to confirm that my drawing is correct - I haven't been game to try it until I do. If Biggi actually has a working cable, then maybe you can confirm these pinouts.
>
> If this setup can be confirmed to work then this is a holy grail for the FZ because all the FZ samples can now be stored on PC instead of FZ floppy - and with the parallel connection instead of MIDI, the sample sumps will take seconds rather than minutes with MIDI dump. I hope we can crack this, I've been waiting years for this!
>
> Cheers, graham
>
>
>
> --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, JFlores wrote:
> >
> > Hi Graham,
> >
> > It turns out you were right ! there is/was a Casio rack for the DZ MIDI
> > drum kit, I just found a picture of it :
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilvance/3969272402/in/set-72157622363304823/
> > (plenty of nice Casio stuff pictures of their pro gear, by the way on that
> > Flickr photostream)
> >
> > I haven't yet found out if there was any reference, never saw one on the
>; > casio flyers and catalogues...
> >
> > By the way, I had a question : I have been looking for ages for an elusive
> > 25-pin cable for the Casio FZ sampler and it turns out Biggi does have one
> > - er, in fact two of them, one of each kind : male/male and male/female,
> > both with 25 pins at each end. Do you perhaps have a clue on which one
> > could be the good one ? I thought one cable was enough both for FZ-FZ and
> > FZ-PC communications, but it seems not to be the case.
> > If you have ANY idea it will be most welcome.
> >
> > By the way, I try atteching the two pictures of the cables, let me know if
> > they reach you -
> > thanks for your insight :)
> > Kind regards,
> > Joscelyn
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/20 Graham
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Joscelyn, you sound like a girl after my own heart! You have some great
> > > Casio gear! No, my kit isn';t the one on the picture, but mine are brand new
> > > old stock - never been played. The other 3 pads I bought later are second
>; > > hand and had a fair bit of use, but cleaned up well. Amazing that you found
> > > 2 kits!
> > >
> > > I actually bought mine from Germany - there was no chance of finding them
> > > in Australia. It sounds like from both our experience that the most common
> > > place to see them is Europe. It appears that there is a drum rack for them
> > > made by Casio (or at least has a Casio logo on it). I have a picture of it
> > > in a 1987 Casio brochure somewhere.
> > >
> > >; Here's my list of Casios I have:
> > >
> > >; FZ-1
> > > SK-8
> > > RAP-1 Rapman
> >; > DZ drums (6 pads, 2 kicks)
> > > DP-1 dual drum pads set (6 of them!)
> > > Casio DH100 digital sax
> > >; EG-5 cassette guitar
> > > PG-380 synth guitar
> > > VZ-10M rack synth (VZ-1 in a rack)
> > > CZ-101
> > > SS-1 sound sticks
> > > DG20 digital guitar
>; > > AZ-1
> > >
> > > And still looking for others!
> > >
> > > Wow you've had most of the really big ones. I love my FZ-1, it is the
> > > center piece of my MIDI setup in my studio, had it for nearly 20 years. I
> > > also have the complete set of Casio Shareware Collection samples for it -
> > > about 140MB of samples. I'll put them up soon.
> > >
> > > I have a great deal of manuals, I'm in the process of putting them up
> > > here, or at least to links to where they are parked on my bands website:
> > >
> > > http://www.warningwillrobinson.com.au/index_files/InstrumentManuals.htm
> > >
> > > I have a lot of them, even what is on my band's website is only a small
> > > amount. If you have any requests, just let me know and I'll see if i have
> > > them! And if you have any, you're welcome to put them up here!
> > >
> > > Cheers, Graham
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, JFlores wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your warm welcome ! I am from France, that's quite a long way
> > > > far :)
> > > > You are right, these drumkits are as rare as hen's teeth ! However, I
> > > have
> > > > found that some places in the world have been better treated than others
> > > in
> > > > terms of Casio product coverage - Australia is definitely one of them
> > > >
> > > > Guess what, it is my second one ! The first I found in Italy, and sold it
> > > > to a friend in latvia (or estonia, don't remember right now) who just
> > > like
> > > > lucky you, has the most badass drumkit setup I know of : TWO full sets, i
> > > > stopped talking to him when he sent me the picture (joking of course) -
> > > > both were used, but well cared units. I assume the picture of the pads on
> > > > the forum is your set, they are shiny and beautiful
> > > >
> > > > I have been lucky enough in finding a second one for myself (one kick
> > > > w/legs and 4 pads) and comes from Austria (or Germany), but it also came
> > > > without the rack, which I never saw anywhere by the way... not sure if
> > > > there even was a Casio reference for it ? It came however without the
> > > DZ-1
> > > > unit, which I luckily found like a year later on eBay USA
> > > >
> > > > I really love these vintage synths - I loved them when they came out, but
> > > > since I was young I had not enough revenues to buy most of them -
> > > > Now that I have grown up (smile), I have owned most of them like CZ-3000
> > > ,
> > > > FZ-10M and FZ-1 (still have this), VZ-1, two AZ-1 (sold to friends), and
>; > > > also an RZ-1 which I loved, and a pair of SZ-1 for those CZ keyboards
> > > > without included sequencer :)
> > > > So from time to time I like snooping around if I see some manuals, both
> > > > user- and service-, can become handy one day - and I found your Yahoo
> > > > Group, which is great !
> > > > Is there any way I can contribute : any needed files or manuals perhaps ?
> > > > Just curious : what other Casio stuuf do you own ?
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Joscelyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/1/20 Graham
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey wow, Jocelyn!! That9;s amazing. I only know of one other Casio drum
> > > > > kit, these things are so rare. I recently got another 3 separate pads
> > > off
> > > > > ebay, so I now have 6 pads and 2 kick pads.
> > > > >
> > > > >; Did you get yours with the real Casio rack frame? Mine was only pads
> > > -I'm
> > > > > using a Yamaha drum rack frame to mount them. Sure like to get hold of
> > > the
> > > > > real Casio frame sometime. And also the DZ drum brain. And an RZ-1.
> > > > > and....and...
> > > > >
> > > > > What part of the world are you from? I'm in Australia.
> > > > >
> > >; > > Cheers, Graham
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In casiocollectors@...m.au, "casiofp" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I joined this forum after doing a search on the DZ manual which I
> > > found,
> > > > >; joy !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Graham for creating this group and taking the time to scan and
> > > > > share this manual - I also own a full Casio Drumkit, and know how it
> > > feels:
> > > > > great ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joscelyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "Graham" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They plug into the DZ-1 pad module, which doesn't have any sounds
> > > of
> > > > > its own - it is a pad to MIDI converter, which you then plug any MIDI
> > > drum
> > > > > machine/MIDI sound module into to play the sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers, Graham
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "montequi" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you just have the pads, or does it plug into a sound module?
> > > I'm
> > > > > curious what it sounds like.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In casiocollectors@yahoogroups.com.au, "Graham" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well I just scored the buy of the century..not as in cheap
> > > bargain
> > > > > (it was quite expensive) but in buying something very rare - a full
> > > set of
> > > > > Casio DZ20/30 drum pads! Never used, brand new condition! The main
> > > picture
> > >; > > on this site is an example of a set (although it actually has a couple
> > > more
> > > > > toms than my 4 pads + kick). Very pleased - I've dreamed of having a
> > > set
> > > > > for my collection for a long time!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers, Graham
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