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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Two Cirklons

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Two Cirklons

2011-06-08 by John Christian

> At some point I'm planning to add remote editing of patterns via MIDI.

I wasn't going to start making serious suggestions until I've got mine
and can start playing, but as it's come up...

It would be really useful if you could have two kinds of control:

- Controlling a parameter for the currently selected pattern
- Controlling a parameter for a specific pattern

That way with a lots-of-knobs controller like a drehbank you could set
it up to make editing more conventient by gaining "dedicated" knobs
for pitch, vel, whatever, or you could get the ability to tweak
several running patterns at the same time without switching.  Or a mix
of the two even...

I thought one of those was already in place, though I didn't know
which.  I guess not after all.

(First post - I think - hello everyone!)

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Two Cirklons

2011-06-08 by Colin Fraser

> It would be really useful if you could have two kinds of control:
> 
> - Controlling a parameter for the currently selected pattern
> - Controlling a parameter for a specific pattern

You would need to get that by selecting which track a control was directed
to, with a fixed track number, or referenced by the current 'edit track'.
You'd need to consider how you address different bars of a pattern, varying
resolutions for aux values, etc.
 
> That way with a lots-of-knobs controller like a drehbank you 
> could set it up to make editing more conventient by gaining 
> "dedicated" knobs for pitch, vel, whatever, or you could get 
> the ability to tweak several running patterns at the same 
> time without switching.  Or a mix of the two even...

There is definitely a diminishing return with dedicated knobs - at some
point, you have to spend more time hunting for each control than it would
take just to switch view.
I think the Drehbank is at the limit for a usable number of controls.
That's especially true if you have use multiple banks. At least it is for my
brain.
But being able to map 4 rows of controls for note/velo/leng/delay in P3
edit, or a selection of the track values in play mode is on my list.

Cheers,
Colin

Re: Two Cirklons

2011-06-09 by weston_underwood

My aim was to edit several tracks (applying to different synths) note values at the same time to produce triads as chords or syncopated notes. Easy to do if you can control two or three note on/off pitch lines at once to check their interaction rather than jumping back and forward to tweak. When it comes to velocity etc I'm happy to work one at a time.

Re: Two Cirklons

2011-06-10 by robotchas

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "weston_underwood" <mhenley@...> wrote:
>
> My aim was to edit several tracks (applying to different synths) note values at the same time to produce triads as chords or syncopated notes. Easy to do if you can control two or three note on/off pitch lines at once to check their interaction rather than jumping back and forward to tweak. When it comes to velocity etc I'm happy to work one at a time.
>

Does the Cirklon respond to remote MIDI control (ie can it be programmed via CCs or NRPNs or sysex)? If so you might be able to do what you're talking about with a knob or faderbox.

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Two Cirklons

2011-06-11 by Colin Fraser

> Does the Cirklon respond to remote MIDI control (ie can it be 
> programmed via CCs or NRPNs or sysex)? If so you might be 
> able to do what you're talking about with a knob or faderbox.

Not yet.
I'm looking at the remote control implementation as a good excuse to buy an
iPad.
It's going to need bi-directional NRPN or sysex support though, which I
don't believe MIDITouch supports yet.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

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