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Major differences between P3 and Cirklon

Major differences between P3 and Cirklon

2010-12-04 by klockwerk

Is there a post somewhere as to Cirklon's features. I'm particularly interested in the differences between the Cirklon and P3 (besides the CV/gate). What can the Cirklon do that the P3 can't, or is it still a bit early to ask?
Thanks.

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Major differences between P3 and Cirklon

2010-12-04 by Paul Nagle

On 04/12/2010 22:33, klockwerk wrote:
> Is there a post somewhere as to Cirklon's features. I'm particularly interested in the differences between the Cirklon and P3 (besides the CV/gate). What can the Cirklon do that the P3 can't, or is it still a bit early to ask?

More tracks, more MIDI ins and outs, timing as tight as a gnat's chuff, 
polyphonic realtime record, drum editor, instrument definitions, MTC 
sync, USB MIDI, ordinary MIDI and CV, card slot, lots more memory than a 
P3, song mode for structured song construction but can break out of it 
at any time then jump back in later if you want...

That kind of thing. :)

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Major differences between P3 and Cirklon

2010-12-12 by watson

on the midi record can you quantize your performance after the fact?

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Paul Nagle <softroom@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 04/12/2010 22:33, klockwerk wrote:
> > Is there a post somewhere as to Cirklon's features. I'm particularly
> interested in the differences between the Cirklon and P3 (besides the
> CV/gate). What can the Cirklon do that the P3 can't, or is it still a bit
> early to ask?
>
> More tracks, more MIDI ins and outs, timing as tight as a gnat's chuff,
> polyphonic realtime record, drum editor, instrument definitions, MTC
> sync, USB MIDI, ordinary MIDI and CV, card slot, lots more memory than a
> P3, song mode for structured song construction but can break out of it
> at any time then jump back in later if you want...
>
> That kind of thing. :)
>
> --
> Paul
> ---
> http://www.softroom.co.uk
> http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote
>
>  
>


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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Major differences between P3 and Cirklon

2010-12-13 by Tony Scharf

While people are asking questions and getting answers, I thought I would
throw one out there.

I borrowed a Manikin Schrittmacher some time ago, and fell in love with the
way you could have one track play as an offset to another.   Does the
Cirklon have any similar concept?  I know from my brief ownership of one,
that it has accumulators that are kind of the same thing, but I could never
really get results from them.

Tony

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:33 PM, klockwerk <jcdeckard@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>
> Is there a post somewhere as to Cirklon's features. I'm particularly
> interested in the differences between the Cirklon and P3 (besides the
> CV/gate). What can the Cirklon do that the P3 can't, or is it still a bit
> early to ask?
> Thanks.
>
>  
>



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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Major differences between P3 and Cirklon

2010-12-13 by Paul Nagle

On 13/12/2010 04:55, Tony Scharf wrote:

> I borrowed a Manikin Schrittmacher some time ago, and fell in love with the
> way you could have one track play as an offset to another.   Does the
> Cirklon have any similar concept?  I know from my brief ownership of one,
> that it has accumulators that are kind of the same thing, but I could never
> really get results from them.

Accumulators work nicely in the P3 and Cirklon in that they add offsets 
to existing values such as pitch, velocity or whatever aux event is 
placed in row D. You can use them to make patterns get longer, or if 
using an event like random masking, you can have the randomness increase 
- all sorts of wacky stuff really. You might make the entire pattern 
shift in pitch on each pass or protect notes so that only sections of 
the pattern shift, there are lots of applications, especially as you can 
have positive and negative accumulation, add limits to the accumulators 
range and rules for what happens when those limits are reached.

They might not be obvious from a brief acquaintance, buy accumulators 
are pretty versatile - so without knowing your particular problem with 
getting results, it's a bit hard to diagnose. As for other forms of 
modulation that might appear in Cirklon, that's up to Colin to reveal... :)

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