Analogue-sequencer

I just got a P3 a couple weeks back, and really just started digging into
it.  I love it thing, with the exception of how note entry is handled via
the pots.  Because they are not stepped, it can some times be hard to hit
the note you want.  I know you can real-time record to get around this, and
thats good for somethings, but my hands are getting a bit arthritic, and
those 16th notes are starting to become harder to hit..

Anyway, I was wondering if there were a way to single step notes in using a
keyboard?   I particularly like how the Electron MonoMachine handled this
(you hold a step button, and press a note on the keyboard to set the value).
 You also have 'traditional' step time entry where pressing a key records
the note and advances to the next step.

Does the P3 have anything like this?  Will the Cirklon?  It would make
programming things like bass lines and drum patterns a million times easier.

Tony



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I'm away from p3 and it's been awhile, but I know that you can change the
default resolution/octave range per pattern for the pitch knobs...
like set it to only sweep through a certain number of octaves; 1 or 2 and
it's much easier to hit the note you want with the knobs.
(I'll be honest, lately it's been all monomachine for myself ;)

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Tony Scharf <noisetheorem@gmail.com> wrote:

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> I just got a P3 a couple weeks back, and really just started digging into
> it. I love it thing, with the exception of how note entry is handled via
> the pots. Because they are not stepped, it can some times be hard to hit
> the note you want. I know you can real-time record to get around this, and
> thats good for somethings, but my hands are getting a bit arthritic, and
> those 16th notes are starting to become harder to hit..
>
> Anyway, I was wondering if there were a way to single step notes in using a
> keyboard? I particularly like how the Electron MonoMachine handled this
> (you hold a step button, and press a note on the keyboard to set the
> value).
> You also have 'traditional' step time entry where pressing a key records
> the note and advances to the next step.
>
> Does the P3 have anything like this? Will the Cirklon? It would make
> programming things like bass lines and drum patterns a million times
> easier.
>
> Tony
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--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Tony Scharf <noisetheorem@...> wrote:
> Anyway, I was wondering if there were a way to single step notes in using a
> keyboard?   

I use Arpeggio recording for this (In edit mode, Func + Rec).

-Jim

> Anyway, I was wondering if there were a way to single step notes in using a
> > keyboard? I particularly like how the Electron MonoMachine handled this
> > (you hold a step button, and press a note on the keyboard to set the
> > value).



That is the Roland MC -202 feature that I asked Colin several years ago.


I would like to have it.


Hans

> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
> From: notjoshua@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:54:06 -0500
> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 feature question
> 
> I'm away from p3 and it's been awhile, but I know that you can change the
> default resolution/octave range per pattern for the pitch knobs...
> like set it to only sweep through a certain number of octaves; 1 or 2 and
> it's much easier to hit the note you want with the knobs.
> (I'll be honest, lately it's been all monomachine for myself ;)
> 
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Tony Scharf <noisetheorem@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I just got a P3 a couple weeks back, and really just started digging into
> > it. I love it thing, with the exception of how note entry is handled via
> > the pots. Because they are not stepped, it can some times be hard to hit
> > the note you want. I know you can real-time record to get around this, and
> > thats good for somethings, but my hands are getting a bit arthritic, and
> > those 16th notes are starting to become harder to hit..
> >
> > Anyway, I was wondering if there were a way to single step notes in using a
> > keyboard? I particularly like how the Electron MonoMachine handled this
> > (you hold a step button, and press a note on the keyboard to set the
> > value).
> > You also have 'traditional' step time entry where pressing a key records
> > the note and advances to the next step.
> >
> > Does the P3 have anything like this? Will the Cirklon? It would make
> > programming things like bass lines and drum patterns a million times
> > easier.
> >
> > Tony
> >
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> > myspace:http://www.myspace.com/noisetheorem
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>>Anyway, I was wondering if there were a way to single step notes in using a keyboard?<<

I always wanted a sequencer to be able to do this. & hold several steps at once to enter the same note (from a keyboard) onto all of them.
I suggested it to the guy that built the mobius, & never heard back from him. dammit. one day I might get around to building a true (non-cpu) analogue step-sequencer that works this way, using the switches to "open" memory locations to input from the CV from an attached keyboard. imagine the sequencer stepping through 8 or 16 little circuits that were basically the same as the "hold" part of a regular analogue monosynth's "sample-&-hold" section between the oscillator & the keyboard. easy. I have the circuit drawn out somewhere.

anyway.

this last trip to the US, I was mostly occupied with the "skip" function. building riffs up "blind" & then revealing them by unskipping the steps, while skipping the notes that have been playing, & keeping the whole thing at 8 steps duration throughout. or not. :-)

paul will tell me to create masks & use accumulators to do this, but I actually find it more interesting, not to mention having a better idea of what's going to happen next, to do it all manually.

if I had one wish of the p3 (too late now, anyway), it would be to have two or three rows of the step switches. then we'd be able to edit two or three patterns simultaneously, with some sort of semi-automatic delegation of the knobs to each row. encoders would be better for this, obviously.
somewhere between the p3 & a maq, in fact. :-)

I really should use the notron a bit more.

duncan.

duncan wrote:

> paul will tell me to create masks & use accumulators to do this, but I actually find it more interesting, not to mention having a better idea of what's going to happen next, to do it all manually.

Nah, manual sounds perfectly fine to me. Great pix BTW, impressive job.

BTW(2) remind me of your address and I'll wazz that BC8 back with much 
gratitude. :)

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