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SCSI copy???

SCSI copy???

2007-05-29 by reverbrick

Hi there,

I need to make CD's out of AKAI's HD, but my only computer having SCSI 
ports is an old pc being only able to run linux.
There are a lot of posts on the net on how to do that using toast under 
mac but not so much for linux users.
Have anyone tried a command called "dd" to dump a SCSI disk 
into "burnable" image?
Will it work?
What should be a parameters?

Regards
ReverbRick

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???

2007-05-29 by Gordon JC Pearce

On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 07:30 +0000, reverbrick wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I need to make CD's out of AKAI's HD, but my only computer having SCSI 
> ports is an old pc being only able to run linux.
> There are a lot of posts on the net on how to do that using toast under 
> mac but not so much for linux users.
> Have anyone tried a command called "dd" to dump a SCSI disk 
> into "burnable" image?
> Will it work?
> What should be a parameters?

It depends on how the Akai sees the disk.  If it has the same format on
a CD as on the hard disk, DD will work just fine.

I've dd'ed the contents off an Emax II disk and burned them to CD with
cdrecord, and it worked perfectly well.  You'll probably have to name
the image file <something>.iso so it gets written as an ISO file, even
though it's not actually in ISO9660 format.

Probably something like "dd if=/dev/sda of=test.iso bs=512" should work.
If not, try bs=1024 or bs=256 but I'm *almost* sure that the Akai uses
512-byte blocks on disk.

Gordon

RE: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???

2007-05-29 by Gorny, Daniel (Daniel)** CTR **

Thanks Gordon,
 
That is exactly what I was looking for.
Akai disks are the same as CD's and have 512 blocks.
 
I'll try it up today afternoon.
 
Regards
Daniel
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[mailto:akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Gordon JC
Pearce
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:10 AM
To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???



On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 07:30 +0000, reverbrick wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I need to make CD's out of AKAI's HD, but my only computer having SCSI

> ports is an old pc being only able to run linux.
> There are a lot of posts on the net on how to do that using toast
under 
> mac but not so much for linux users.
> Have anyone tried a command called "dd" to dump a SCSI disk 
> into "burnable" image?
> Will it work?
> What should be a parameters?

It depends on how the Akai sees the disk. If it has the same format on
a CD as on the hard disk, DD will work just fine.

I've dd'ed the contents off an Emax II disk and burned them to CD with
cdrecord, and it worked perfectly well. You'll probably have to name
the image file <something>.iso so it gets written as an ISO file, even
though it's not actually in ISO9660 format.

Probably something like "dd if=/dev/sda of=test.iso bs=512" should work.
If not, try bs=1024 or bs=256 but I'm *almost* sure that the Akai uses
512-byte blocks on disk.

Gordon

RE: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???

2007-05-30 by Gorny, Daniel (Daniel)** CTR **

Gordon,
 
It worked after a short fight caused by my lack of knowledge in linux
matter.
 
Command I used was "dd if=/dev/sda/ of =test.iso bs=512 count=1105000"
 
I had to add "count" parameter because my disk size was bigger than it
was formated at.
I nicely cut my iso down to 540Mb.
 
Thanks again
Daniel
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From: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Gordon JC
Pearce
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:10 AM
To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???



On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 07:30 +0000, reverbrick wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I need to make CD's out of AKAI's HD, but my only computer having SCSI

> ports is an old pc being only able to run linux.
> There are a lot of posts on the net on how to do that using toast
under 
> mac but not so much for linux users.
> Have anyone tried a command called "dd" to dump a SCSI disk 
> into "burnable" image?
> Will it work?
> What should be a parameters?

It depends on how the Akai sees the disk. If it has the same format on
a CD as on the hard disk, DD will work just fine.

I've dd'ed the contents off an Emax II disk and burned them to CD with
cdrecord, and it worked perfectly well. You'll probably have to name
the image file <something>.iso so it gets written as an ISO file, even
though it's not actually in ISO9660 format.

Probably something like "dd if=/dev/sda of=test.iso bs=512" should work.
If not, try bs=1024 or bs=256 but I'm *almost* sure that the Akai uses
512-byte blocks on disk.

Gordon

RE: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???

2007-05-30 by Mike Wolak

To make things easier and a little quicker , you could have
done this:

 dd if=/dev/sda/ of =test.iso bs=1MB  count=540

This will tell Linux to try and read 1MB at a time rather
then 512 blocks, fewer  ,larger I/O's make things go a lot
quicker and the end result is the same data in the iso.

Best Regards,

Mike Wolak

--- "Gorny, Daniel (Daniel)** CTR **"
<dgorny@...> wrote:
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> Gordon,
>  
> It worked after a short fight caused by my lack of
> knowledge in linux
> matter.
>  
> Command I used was "dd if=/dev/sda/ of =test.iso bs=512
> count=1105000"
>  
> I had to add "count" parameter because my disk size was
> bigger than it
> was formated at.
> I nicely cut my iso down to 540Mb.
>  
> Thanks again
> Daniel
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
> Of Gordon JC
> Pearce
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:10 AM
> To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 07:30 +0000, reverbrick wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I need to make CD's out of AKAI's HD, but my only
> computer having SCSI
> 
> > ports is an old pc being only able to run linux.
> > There are a lot of posts on the net on how to do that
> using toast
> under 
> > mac but not so much for linux users.
> > Have anyone tried a command called "dd" to dump a SCSI
> disk 
> > into "burnable" image?
> > Will it work?
> > What should be a parameters?
> 
> It depends on how the Akai sees the disk. If it has the
> same format on
> a CD as on the hard disk, DD will work just fine.
> 
> I've dd'ed the contents off an Emax II disk and burned
> them to CD with
> cdrecord, and it worked perfectly well. You'll probably
> have to name
> the image file <something>.iso so it gets written as an
> ISO file, even
> though it's not actually in ISO9660 format.
> 
> Probably something like "dd if=/dev/sda of=test.iso
> bs=512" should work.
> If not, try bs=1024 or bs=256 but I'm *almost* sure that
> the Akai uses
> 512-byte blocks on disk.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>

RE: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] SCSI copy???

2007-05-30 by Gordon JC Pearce

On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 07:35 -0700, Mike Wolak wrote:
> To make things easier and a little quicker , you could have
> done this:
> 
>  dd if=/dev/sda/ of =test.iso bs=1MB  count=540
> 
> This will tell Linux to try and read 1MB at a time rather
> then 512 blocks, fewer  ,larger I/O's make things go a lot
> quicker and the end result is the same data in the iso.
> 

If you're copying from a SCSI disk, yes.  Be careful doing that if
you're copying from a SCSI CDROM - some of them have got "interesting"
ideas of block sizes.

Gordon

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