Akai S1000 / S1100 samplers

Hi,

Just to make it clear: I was just saying what we all know: the S1100
recognizes only one external scsi device at a time. That means that if
you have a zip drive and a HD, at the same time, that you must switch
between their scsi id's in the s1100's menu all the time.
It has nothing to do with the fact that scsi works with a daisy chain,
but just because the operating system doesnt keep a list with
available media in its memory. My mpc2000XL for example doesnt have
that problem: whenever you want to save or load a file, you select a
scsi channel, or just a device when it was already used before. In the
s1100 on the contrary, you need to change the settings all the time.
 
I hope we can close that discussion - there is already too much told
here about scsi. 
 
Rgds,

Frank

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "aneurysmhook"
<aneurysmhook@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Glad that worked well for you. I have the same type scsi zip drive 
> where the ID can only be set to 5 or 6. The S1100 will default it's 
> SCSI setting to being #6 and the target drive #5 every powerup. That 
> being said the OS would not load from the HD immediately if you are 
> able to change the internal HD's ID, but it works just the same from 
> a zip.
> 
> I'm not sure what is meant by only 1 external SCSI ID being allowed. 
> You can daisy chain several devices like a Zip drive then a CD-rom 
> drive, or a chain of several HDs, etc. As long as each device can 
> have it's own ID (I think you're out of luck on the zip drive) All 
> you need to do is tell the Akai which ID# is the current target 
> drive. Of course you can't access more than 1 drive concurrently, but 
> that's the way any scsi daisy chain works. I hope I didn't 
> misunderstand what you meant.
> 
> As far as the internal HD. I hope it goes without saying that if you 
> do open your machine use the PARK function to park the HD read heads 
> to avoid any damage while even moving the Akai. 
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "tbiggz" 
> <infarmah@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > The SCSI Zip has a switch to select SCSI #5 or #6.  Since both IDs 
> > are taken (By the S1100 and it's internal HD), there is no left 
> over 
> > option.  I'll have to see if the SCSI zip can use other IDs also.
> > 
> > I didn't know only one external SCSI ID was allowed. That seems a 
> > strange restriction; The EIII from 1988 has an internal HD and 
> takes 
> > an external zip just fine.  But anyway, I've got enough reason to 
> > give the zip drive a rest.
> > 
> > as for the internal hd, since it came with the machine already, I 
> > have no idea what type it is.  When I have time to open it up, I'll 
> > check... Can I check the make/model without disturbing the drive?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "formals777" 
> > <frank.govaerts@p...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Great news! 
> > > 
> > > 1. Regarding your problem to mount the zip drive: Can't you 
> change 
> > the
> > > scsi ID of your scsi zip disc with dip switches or a dumb wheel?
> > > Anyway, you can also change the scsi id of your HD by setting the
> > > jumpers. Changing the scsi id of the zip drive looks to be easier.
> > > Anyway, the sampler can work with only one external scsi id at a 
> > time,
> > > so you have to switch between HD and zip all the time. 
> > > 
> > > 2. BTW: do you have the brand and exact model number of hard 
> disk? 
> > I'm
> > > thinking that the sampler takes a very limited number of HD models
> > > when it is used internally. That may be one of the reasons why the
> > > rest of us have problems mounting an internal HD.
> > > 
> > > Have fun! 
> > > Frank
> > >  
> > > 
> > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "tbiggz"
> > > <infarmah@h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the advice on the OS storage 
> > > > to HD.  My S1100 arrived with an internal 
> > > > HD and OS4.30 on a floppy disk.  Amazingly,
> > > > noone ever loaded the OS on the internal
> > > > HD.  Anyway, doing it was as easy as you
> > > > said and now I boot to OS4.30 really fast.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "tbiggz" 
> > > > <infarmah@h...> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "aneurysmhook" 
> > > > > <aneurysmhook@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi again, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Actually yes it can! My machine currently automatically 
> loads 
> > the 
> > > > > > final OS from the SCSI zip disk. As long as you put the OS 
> on 
> > the 
> > > > > > first partition of the drive it should load automatically 
> on 
> > > > > powerup. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is just temporary until I get enough time & energy to 
> > take 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > out of the rack and put in the 2 eproms of the last OS 
> which 
> > I 
> > > > > > have. :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "tbiggz" 
> > > > > > <infarmah@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Wow thanks for the info!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Last thing: I wonder is if the S1100 can 
> > > > > > > be booted from the SCSI HD.  I know some
> > > > > > > Akai machines do not allow the OS to 
> > > > > > > boot from SCSI (even my ASR10 does that!).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Do you load your S1100 OS from the SCSI 
> > > > > > > HD?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks again...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In 
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "aneurysmhook" 
> > > > > > > <aneurysmhook@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, the effects are standard on an S1100. The final 
> > S1100 
> > > > > O.S. 
> > > > > > is 
> > > > > > > > 4.30. I don't know if the S1000 OS would work but I 
> > wouldn't 
> > > > > > think 
> > > > > > > it 
> > > > > > > > necessary at all. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The S1100 also came standard with different A/D D/A 
> > > > converters 
> > > > > > than 
> > > > > > > > the S1000, an SCSI board, and 8 output board with 
> effects 
> > > > > > > send/return 
> > > > > > > > loop possibility..although this function doesn't work 
> if 
> > > > using 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > digital output.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I've also read about the HD recording after version 2.0 
> > which 
> > > > > > Akai 
> > > > > > > > did charge for when it was first released. The final 
> O.S 
> > is 
> > > > > 4.30 
> > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > can be loaded via floppy or zip if you don't have the 
> > eproms 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > final version. Version up kits are still out there too. 
> I 
> > > > have 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > > zip 
> > > > > > > > and cd-rom connected via SCSI, but no HD. So I can't 
> > comment 
> > > > > > about 
> > > > > > > > that part. Hope this has helped a bit.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "tbiggz" 
> > > > > > > > <infarmah@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Do the effects come standard on the 
> > > > > > > > > S1100?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It seems the standard S1100 had many 
> > > > > > > > > standard features: The only option I 
> > > > > > > > > know of was the digital I/O board.
> > > > > > > > > Were there others?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Also, how does the S1100 O.S. compare 
> > > > > > > > > to the S1000 O.S?  
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I mean, there's Version 4.40 for S1000, 
> > > > > > > > > does that also work on the S1100?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I thought the S1100 requires 2.0 ROM upgrade 
> > > > > > > > > for some features like HD recording.  
> > > > > > > > > I'm really confused.  Is there someone who 
> > > > > > > > > knows the details here?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!