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Re: S1100 Floppy Drive

2011-08-12 by nicknak110756

Hi Rish.

got my internal zip today and have been looking on line for the "50 pin IDE thru board header" you mentioned but i cant for the life of me find what it is.
there seems to be so much under that term its left me confused.
if its not to much trouble can you send me a link to the product please?

im off on holiday on monday and was hoping to get this up and running before then tho its not looking likely!

Many Thanks
Neil

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@...> wrote:
>
> Ya no prob, lete know of you need more details or of your not sure about the soldering.
> 
> Rish
> 
> Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> 
> 
> On Aug 8, 2011, at 12:59 PM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@...> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the advice man, not installed one before so thats most welcome.
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok...sounds good, you will need to order a 50 pin IDE thru board header and solder it in place on the tail end of your SCSI card. Then you will need about a 20in 50 pin IDE cable with ends on it, that will allow you plug in your new internal drive. Make sure you have it plugged in the correct direction pin 1 stripe on cable. If you make a mistake with the cable it won't damage anything but won't work correctly.
> > > 
> > > Rish
> > > 
> > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Thanks for the offer Rish but i'll have to hold off till i see what turns up.
> > > > if i do buy another unit i will give you a shout as my current one is almost fully loaded and wont need much more memory to top it up.
> > > > 
> > > > i just ordered an internal zip as you suggested so gonna give that a go first.
> > > > im hoping the fault is in the scsi connector at the rear so this may be a cheap solution if it works!
> > > > 
> > > > Neil
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > They seem to go pretty cheap these days, I will make you a deal if your unit is full on memory and you get one with a good amount say (8meg card) I will buy it from you to help offset the cost as I have a unit that needs some memory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rish
> > > > > 
> > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Aug 8, 2011, at 2:38 AM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi Rish,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > my thoughts exactly tho im not happy as i bought it as working.
> > > > > > got it cheap tho so hopefully can pick another up and mix and match
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ya then like Pee wee says it's prob the card, I would try to pick up a spare parts unit.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Rish
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 4:29 PM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi Rish
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > its a possibility i agree but i cant think what as its a pretty straight forward procedure.
> > > > > > > > i've followed the instructions laid out in the manual just in case.
> > > > > > > > i have the channels as they should and the connections as they should yet the sampler will still not recognise the drive.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > to add, i've just hooked my roland sampler up and the zip drive shows up on that no problems.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > like i say, i think the issue may be with the SCSI port as i cant think of anything else?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > is this fixable or is it a case of finding a replacement?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well if there are no hardware issues you must be doing something wrong in the setup and selection of the SCSI devise. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Rish
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 1:33 PM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Rish,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > thats what i thought at first so i bought a second drive only for the same thing to happen.
> > > > > > > > > > i suppose i could have two bad drives but the odds on that are pretty slim i recken.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > think i might get one more just to be sure but can you think of anything else it could be if not?
> > > > > > > > > > out of curiosity, are the scsi ports fixable if that does happen to be the issue?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > would love to finally get this unit working so i can get my head round it and make some music
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Neil
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You know it almost sounds like you have a bad zip disc or drive.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Rish
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:20 PM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > HI Rish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > i take it you mean the SCSI ID and the Sampler Id when you say channels?
> > > > > > > > > > > > its a 100mb Zip drive im using and it wont allow me to format at all.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > i meant to add previously that i also get a "hard disc read error" message sometimes
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > > > > > > > Neil
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya you have to make sure on the right channels and format the zip disk as well. What kind of zip is it exactly? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rish
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:02 AM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rish,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not much mate, the floppy is dead for sure and the when i hook my zip drive up to the scsi port it keeps coming up as "hard disk drive not ready" or "no disk" and wont allow me to read/format the zips as a result.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > when i press the disk button the zip drive tries to read the disc but fails.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have tried a number of different discs and a different drive and the same thing occurs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am fairly new to this unit but i have read the manual and followed the directions and it appears the scsi port has an issue.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you agree?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, what does it do? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rish
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:36 AM, "nicknak110756" <neil.b.dunn@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the replies guys, very much appreciated!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think i'll deffo look into the internal scsi option if i can get one for a good price.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its a real shame as the unit has a scsi card already installed but i cant get it to read my zip or cd drives for some reason.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont know if theres a solution to that issue but would welcome any further advice if its out there?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes you are lucky cause there are only 2 that will work that way and they have not been available for 10 yrs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rish
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:26 AM, amenophis@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great! I'm a lucky man. I found 2 Teac FD-235 (2 different revisions) 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on eBay (3 euro both) and it's works on my S1100 and my S3000i. I've 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just changed the jumper position.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Citando Rish <rish@>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not true teac made about 10 revisions of the FD-235-H series drives, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know this as 7 of them I worked on with Teac. They no longer make 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these drives.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The drive found in the Akai that was a Teac is like 14yrs old and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way out of production. The most current Teac 235 will not work by 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making a magic jumper change, sorry.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rish
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM, amenophis@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi there,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the Akai S1100 floppy drive is a Teac FD-235HF which is used also in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> PC; if you find one which works, you have just to change the Teac
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> FD-235HF PC floppy drive jumper in the Akai S1100 jumper position
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (take a look at your old floppy drive).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hope this help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Citando nicknak110756 <phoreskinz@>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi Folks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > can someone please tell me if i can install a standard floppy drive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > into my S1100 or do i need to purchase a specific product?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > many thanks
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