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Re: re:New and comparing the in comparable

2006-08-18 by legion01x

Forgive me but I edited your email in a few basic questions to address
them easier :) 

> Our studio has decided to build over time a large modular , the idea 
> is to build something which can run 4- 6  monophonic parts minimum 
> for now  ,and then i came to randivide and were like heaviliy into 
> random here Our aim is to create complex autocompositions 
>whats a  good balance of modules.I know what filters we need and what
> Vco i think :)

I have a decent sized cyndustries/modcan banana system now and use it
a LOT for autocompositional mayhem. My advice is to start with a few
of the more esoteric modules along with your basic VCOs and such that
you know you'd like and see what does the trick for you. The
Cyndustries modules are the most inspiring and unusual pieces I have
worked with and I've learned it takes sometime actually *using* the
modules before you realize what they can do for you. As a result I
wouldn't suggest buying four of anything but if you have the money buy
a few of different modules and see what works and interacts the best.

For specific suggestions I'd reccomend at least one of the following:

Cyndustries:
- Randivide
- Buchla Quad Lowpass gate 
- VC ADSR Version III
- Gate Sequencer
- Prime or Rhythmic divider (or both!)
- Psycho LF0

In Modcan items pick up:
- Quad LFO (I cannot emphasize how useful this module is, it can be a
basic trigger, a raw VCO, or even a weird cv mixer)
- 6x2 Mixer (or the Cyn MixSix, or other Modcan mixer)
- Processor (OR Cyn Anything Module)

Now for other things I'd HIGHLY reccomend if you're going for unusual
and autocompostion items I say the following if you can find/afford them:

Zero Oscilator - This will keep you busy exploring new tones and areas
for a long long time.

Burst Generator - Out of production but snap one (or two) up if you
ever see them used. Incredilby useful for throwing a standard patch
into chaotic territory.

Dark Star Chaos - Also out of production but very useful for not only
unusual timbres but also as a modulation source.

>not sure what i need and what if these modules as limited editions go
out of production :) ' syndrome.

That is a concern in addition to the fact that you may have to wait a
few months before your order is complete. My advice is talk to Cynthia
and Bruce to determine what they might have available now and down the
road. Cynthia has already mnentioned the Randivide is going out of
production but again you really won't know if that is what you "need"
until you use it a bit. If you are concerned about "missing out" on an
existing module I'd say err on the side of caution and buy two at
least if you can afford it. You will *always* be able to sell them
later. I built 90% of my system from used sales (including many
modules still in production) and prices weren't always that much less
than "new" but they were available. These modules have a rabid
following and for better or worse many of us have the "bug" and snatch
them up whenever available. 

> i know this is an possible unanswerable question ! the system will 
> focus heavily on special fx and noise effects , the ran divide i can 
> see  us using alot. 

You didn't mention your budget so Id say mix and match to get the
widest variety of things within what you can afford. Grab the ones you
feel will be the most useful (OOP or otherwise) first. 

> Hope someone can make sense of my logic ? 

Hopefully my response does?

> Ps is 1 logic pack enough :)?

Again I would go for a logipac and a staircase comparator or other
clock/divide/logic module before buying two of one module. You gain a
lot in Cyndustires stuff by mixing different modules together.

> (i just heard someone say , you can never have enough !)

Well be careful because that is true! If you want to know the
dangerous and addicitve side of this look in the "user setups" photo
album. In April of this year I had two sixpaks of Cyndustries modules
only (Legiongoesbananas.jpg). Today I uploaded a picture of my modular
taken four months later (Legion_bananastwo.jpg) which now has FIVE
sixpaks (including two ZeroVCOS), a Serge Panel, and a Serge TKB. Not
pictured are the Fenix, an Anything Module on order, and an empty
sixpak (which I am hiding from myself least I fill it up!!). 

And this is JUST the banana modular not the vintage stuff or 1/8" euro
and frac systems in my studio. ouch!

:)

Have fun!

_D

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