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Re: [Simmons Drums] New member post

2005-04-27 by Patrice JACQUOT

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: guybrush03 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] New member post



  That's interesting .. I had a feeling I.T. might be SDS-7.  There's
  something about the sound that doesn't seem possible to get with the
  SDSV.  

                             >>>>>> The Eprom & digital part I guess ... & also the analog which is quite different too of the SDSV ...

  It just seems a little more complex than what you can get with
  the SDSV's relatively basic tools.  But I had also read that he used
  both SDSV and SDS-7 on that album.

             >>>>> He did !

  I actually picked up the Wembley DVD last week.  I haven't looked too
  close yet, but I did notice the SDS-7 pads by the keyboards (looks
  like a Linndrum stacked by them also).  Looks like Phil's main set was
  mostly SDSV pads with a few SDS-7 for triggering other sounds (i.e. it
  seemed like he mainly used the SDSVs for the edrum sound).

                          >>>>>>    Yes the SDS7 pads were probably triggering Chester Thomson SDS7 brain ... 

  How likely is it to find an SDS-7 with original EPROMs/samples?  Is it
  even likely that you can get the same sound as a record that used the
  SDS-7?  Seems like with all the custom EPROMs that were made, you
  probably couldn't .. 

                >>>>              Well , most of the SDS7 sounds I could hear were from the basic library (delivered with the machine) .    
                          only a few people took some time to sample via EPB Simmons or Oberheim  ....But yes , the SDS7 parameters 
                          could make it sound very different ...When you think of the mix of the digital & analog part ...
  bye,
   Patrice.

  guybrush

  > HI & welcome guybrush !
  > 
  > What I can hear from the Single "Invisible Touch" is definitely an
  SDS7 !
  > it sounds more dry than an SDSV ...
  > & maybe the SDSV for the white noise ...
  > 
  > On the "wembley"  gig from 86, if you have some good eyes,  you can
  see two SDS7's brains on stage + one SDSV with pads (close to Phil's
  Grestch acoustic drums...)
  > 
  > The drummer is trigging an SDS7 from the acoustc drums (probably via
  an MTM ), & Phil is have an SDS7 & pads close to Tony Banks keyboards set.
  > 
  > sorry never heard the SDS9 with Phil's Colins( from what I know
  ....)  , but the 9 can sound close to the V sometimes.... so ...
  > 
  > Domino is a mixing of SDS7 ( reverse cymbals ) & SDSV (tomtom fill &
  some, symbals too)...
  > 
  > Get the Wembley DVD it becomes clear !
  > Bye,
  > Patrice..
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: guybrush03 
  >   To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:28 AM
  >   Subject: [Simmons Drums] New member post
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Howdy from Austin, TX USA!
  > 
  >   Just joined the group and finished browsing the archives.  Somehow
  >   with all the google'ing I've done on Simmons drums, I never found this
  >   group until just now.
  > 
  >   I'm a organ/piano/synth player, but I've got a sense of rhythm and can
  >   imitate well enough to justify buying a little drum gear.  So far I've
  >   landed a 5 piece SDS9 set in red and the usual 5-module SDSV.  I
  >   wouldn't mind getting another SDSV for more modules and/or parts.  As
  >   far as other gear, I've got most of the rooms here stuffed with combo
  >   organs, synths, electric pianos, spinet organs, etc.  As far as drum
  >   machines, I use a Roland CR-78 and a Linndrum.
  > 
  >   Anyway, two questions to start off with here:
  > 
  >   1)  What brain was used on "Invisible Touch" (the song, not the
  >   album)?  I want to say SDSV, but I can't seem to get the settings just
  >   right yet
  > 
  >   2)  Anyone able to scan/upload SDSV manual and/or schematics?  I
  >   actually bought some for $15 from schematicconnection.com .. but the
  >   guy is apparently having hip surgery and the order has been delayed by
  >   over a month (torture!!)
  > 
  >   Talk to you all soon ..
  > 
  >   guybrush
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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