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Re: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)

Re: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)

2002-01-31 by m. blake wilson

Jim Johnson wrote:

> ....
>
> 1) An MAQ 16/3
>

but of course! based on your description, this is precisely what you want.
they seem to
pop up regularly for around $500, and IMHO you get plenty o'bang for your
buck. my maq
likes my serge quite a bit, and b/c its midi as well, the rest of the system
thinks its
pretty swell too. make sure you get a later version (the originals didn't have
cv/gate)
or an original with the upgrade kit for cv/gate.

while this track is just a long jam, it showcases two maq's working together
both with
vintage moogs and a particular modern analog; the maq has the very cool
ability to drop
out of sync into manual step mode, which we do a couple times on the track, so
you can manually
step thru the pattern (kind of like jamming) then latch back into sync:

http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/2017/2017960.html

fwiw.

jim, i think this is what you're looking for.

hth,

blake
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Re: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)

2002-01-31 by Rude 66

if you take all the time you're going to put into 'sergeifying' things, and
count that at whatever you normally earn, wouldn't it just be as much in
money as, say, a serge tkb? especially since you already have a serge
panel..

just a thought,

r.




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Datum: donderdag 31 januari 2002 2:33
Onderwerp: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)
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>I've decided to share the source of my angst with the list. Hopefully it
>will be thought-provoking,or at least entertaining.
>
>My modular has been sitting idle of late, primarily because I'm weary of
>playing it with just knobs. This is no surprise. I had always planned to
>control it with a sequencer, either analog, faux-analog (SQ-16, etc) or my
>own Seq-303. Alas, nothing I've tried does the trick. (In the case of
>Seq-303, this is due to a need to get away from the computer: I write code
>all day, and playing a mouse-based sequencer just doesn't give me the
>release I need).
>
>I've been through a couple of different sequencers in the last year, and
>neither did it for me. The SQ-16 was too damn hard to use, lacked knobs,
>and forced me to do a lot of mental bookkeeping ("track 1 is assigned to
>MIDI channel 2, which is routed to output 4 on the Expressionist", etc. Too
>much like work.) The Mobius lacked knobs and was non-intuitive to program.
>
>So I'm looking again, and I thought I'd solicit advice. What I want is
>something that can create complex, polyrhythmic patterns, under real-time
>control, with pitches entered from knobs or sliders, and with lots of
>options for permuting the sequence, either by patching or via controls. I'd
>like to have at least one 16-step CV channel, at least two 8 step (min)
>channels, and an equivalent number of trigger channels. Quantization would
>be nice; I haven't decided if it's essential. Ease of interface with my
>banana jack system. Rack mountable. MIDI sync.
>
>After ruling out the Serge stuff (just too fucking expensive and hard to
>get), the Schaltwerk (too expensive and no knobs), and the Regelwerk
>(maybe?) I've decided that my options are as follows:
>
>1) An MAQ 16/3
>2) 1.5 panels of Doepfer modules, consisting primarily of a pair of A-155's
>and assorted support modules, and then either
> a) Sergiying the Doepfer by replacing the mini's with bananas;
> b) Sergifying the Doepfer by ripping ALL of the module guts out and
>mounting them behind a custom Schafer panel, or
> c) Building a very large banana to mini conversion panel
>3) Going the DIY route, perhaps enhanced with a few gutted Doepfer modules
>(the quantizer, for example). This might not be as hard as it seems at
>first, due to the availability of PC boards for some interesting sequencer
>designs. However, as my wife points out, time is not something I have a lot
>of.
>
>For reference, the synth I'm looking to control is a Fenix combined with a
>single Serge panel: four VCO's, four filters, 8 VCA's, and attendant
>goodies.
>
>Any comments? Suggestions? Outright ridicule?
>
>Jim Johnson
>Metaphoric Software
>-------------------
>Makers of Techno Toys
>Software for Electronic Music
>http://www.technotoys.com
>info@...
>
>

Re: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)

2002-01-31 by Jim Johnson

>On that note....just came across this:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1506131282

Well, since you've now spilled the beans.. I wonder why nobody else has bid
on this? I've watched it for the past 7 days.. the physical condition looks
a bit iffy to me; I wonder about the state of the keyboard.

Jim Johnson
Metaphoric Software
-------------------
Makers of Techno Toys
Software for Electronic Music
http://www.technotoys.com
info@...

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On 1/31/02 at 2:37 PM C. Whitten wrote:

>> wouldn't it just be as much in
>> money as, say, a serge tkb? especially since you already have a serge
>> panel..
>On that note....just came across this:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1506131282
>
>
>
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Re: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)

2002-01-31 by Jim Johnson

That's a sweet little piece o' music, Blake - thanks for sharing. Was that
all done live?

That track illustrates why I'm interested in the MAQ: interactivity and
multiple loop lengths. Unless my ears deceive me. But some have said that
the MAQ has some MIDI sync problems; have you hit any?

My main goal with the MAQ now is to get my hands on one for a few hours. I
am put off by its reliance on menus and multi-function buttons - something
I dislike - but it's possible they did it right.

Thanks

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On 1/30/02 at 6:08 PM m. blake wilson wrote:

>Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> ....
>>
>> 1) An MAQ 16/3
>>
>
>but of course! based on your description, this is precisely what you want.
>they seem to
>pop up regularly for around $500, and IMHO you get plenty o'bang for your
>buck. my maq
>likes my serge quite a bit, and b/c its midi as well, the rest of the
>system
>thinks its
>pretty swell too. make sure you get a later version (the originals didn't
>have
>cv/gate)
>or an original with the upgrade kit for cv/gate.
>
>while this track is just a long jam, it showcases two maq's working
>together
>both with
>vintage moogs and a particular modern analog; the maq has the very cool
>ability to drop
>out of sync into manual step mode, which we do a couple times on the
>track, so
>you can manually
>step thru the pattern (kind of like jamming) then latch back into sync:
>
>http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/2017/2017960.html
>
>fwiw.
>
>jim, i think this is what you're looking for.
>
>hth,
>
>blake
>--
>m. blake wilson is OdysseySounds
> email: mbw@...
> web: http://members.home.net/odysseysounds/index.htm
> music: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/242/matthew_b_wilson.html
> serge: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular/
>
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>SergeModular-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>Keep on Patchin'!
>
>
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Jim Johnson
Metaphoric Software
-------------------
Makers of Techno Toys
Software for Electronic Music
http://www.technotoys.com
info@...

Re: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)

2002-01-31 by C. Whitten

> the physical condition looks
> a bit iffy to me
Agreed.
And the internal wiring can be a bit fragile especially in the earlier
TKB's.
One option is to have it reconditioned by STS.....if you can get it for a
cheap enough price in the first place.
CW

Re: [AH] The quest for an analog sequencer (long)

2002-01-31 by M. Blake Wilson

Jim Johnson wrote:

That's a sweet little piece o' music, Blake - thanks for sharing. Was that
all done live?
thanks and yes, it live to 2 track.

That track illustrates why I'm interested in the MAQ: interactivity and
multiple loop lengths. Unless my ears deceive me. But some have said that
the MAQ has some MIDI sync problems; have you hit any?
none at all. because each of the three sequences can be of different lengths, there is no "automatic reset to step one" when changing patterns, which can result in unwanted/unexpected results...you just have to be prepared and plan accordingly.

My main goal with the MAQ now is to get my hands on one for a few hours. I
am put off by its reliance on menus and multi-function buttons - something
I dislike - but it's possible they did it right.
its an arcane labeling system, that suprisingly becomes second nature super quickly. there are 8 buttons
that give you quick access to menus which are only one level deep, usually with around 10 settings per button. again, i find it a very easy device to learn/program/enjoy.

hey jim if you want to play a couple of them come on down to san diego this weekend! art and i will be
doing more music like "persistance of memory".

b.

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