FT: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, for other m-odule (EU)
2012-11-02 by Bakis Sirros
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2012-11-02 by Bakis Sirros
2012-11-04 by Bakis Sirros
2012-11-04 by Kent Sparling
2012-11-04 by Edmund Eagan
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@...> wrote:
>
> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
>
> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
>
> time to unsubscribe I guess
>
> k
>
2012-11-04 by Dan Leuca
I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here. What is wrong with that?
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@...> wrote:
>
> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
>
> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
>
> time to unsubscribe I guess
>
> k
>
2012-11-04 by John Duval
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dan Leuca <dubld68@...> wrote:
Bakis this bakis that get a life gits...
From: Edmund Eagan <ed@...>;
To: <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: [SergeModular] Re: FS: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, (960 euros Total)
Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2012 11:22:04 PM
I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here. What is wrong with that?
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@...> wrote:
>
> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
>
> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
>
> time to unsubscribe I guess
>
> k
>
--
J
2012-11-05 by John P
On 11/4/2012 6:49 PM, John Duval wrote:
indeed. fifteen years ago this could have been called the "duval by/sell list" . . .didn't hear any complaints. Must admit though that the list has changed somewhat.
I'll take this opportunity to say "thanks you" to everyone who has purchased a copy or done a digital download of both my Serge CDs, Hells Canyon and Cassiopeia's Playground. There are only a few copies of Hells Canyon left at CDbaby which means that over the last nine years I've sold more copies than I ever dreamed possible. I figured I would be lucky to sell two or three. I got physical copy sale at CDbaby last week for the first time in several years. Woo wooo hahahMany thanks to allwarm regardsJohn DuVal
2012-11-05 by Bill Sequeira
On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
> I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here. What is wrong with that?
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@...> wrote:
>>
>> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
>>
>> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
>>
>> time to unsubscribe I guess
>>
>> k
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Keep on Patchin'!
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
2012-11-05 by Edmund Eagan
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:
>
> indeed. fifteen years ago this could have been called the "duval by/sell
> list" . . .didn't hear any complaints. Must admit though that the list has
> changed somewhat.
> I'll take this opportunity to say "thanks you" to everyone who has
> purchased a copy or done a digital download of both my Serge CDs, Hells
> Canyon and Cassiopeia's Playground. There are only a few copies of Hells
> Canyon left at CDbaby which means that over the last nine years I've sold
> more copies than I ever dreamed possible. I figured I would be lucky to
> sell two or three. I got physical copy sale at CDbaby last week for the
> first time in several years. Woo wooo hahah
> Many thanks to all
> warm regards
> John DuVal
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dan Leuca <dubld68@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bakis this bakis that get a life gits...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * Edmund Eagan <ed@...>;
> > * To: * <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>;
> > * Subject: * [SergeModular] Re: FS: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, (960 euros
> > Total)
> > * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 11:22:04 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user
> > who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here.
> > What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> > >
> > > it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge,
> > only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> > >
> > > time to unsubscribe I guess
> > >
> > > k
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *J*
>
2012-11-05 by Edmund Eagan
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Bill Sequeira <bill@...> wrote:
>
> (Hi Ed!) Yes indeed, there is that aspect of his prior post - but sounds like you may have missed the 5-year-old-selling-Serge-modules-in-a-lemonade-stand behavior from months back that cemented the bad reputation (and reaction).
>
> BTW - congrats John D for the cd sale numbers - good stuff. And when you were selling God's fingers you never pulled them back. ;-)
>
> Quadslope is where the interesting stuff went.
>
>
> Cheers -- Bill
> --------------------------
> "The only rule is work. If you work it will lead to something. It's the people who do all of the work all of the time who eventually catch on to things" -- John Cage
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
>
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here. What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> >>
> >> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> >>
> >> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> >>
> >> time to unsubscribe I guess
> >>
> >> k
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Keep on Patchin'!
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
2012-11-05 by Richarius Molindarius
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
Hi Bill! Hope all is well.
Well, I have been around the list for some time, not posting hardly at all, as my Serge related activity is minimal compared to other music work that has consumed me. I've seen the for-sale posts. Guess they just don't bug me because the overall traffic with this group is really really low.
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Bill Sequeira <bill@...> wrote:
>
> (Hi Ed!) Yes indeed, there is that aspect of his prior post - but sounds like you may have missed the 5-year-old-selling-Serge-modules-in-a-lemonade-stand behavior from months back that cemented the bad reputation (and reaction).
>
> BTW - congrats John D for the cd sale numbers - good stuff. And when you were selling God's fingers you never pulled them back. ;-)
>
> Quadslope is where the interesting stuff went.
>
>
> Cheers -- Bill
> --------------------------
> "The only rule is work. If you work it will lead to something. It's the people who do all of the work all of the time who eventually catch on to things" -- John Cage
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
>
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here. What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> >>
> >> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> >>
> >> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> >>
> >> time to unsubscribe I guess
> >>
> >> k
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Keep on Patchin'!
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
2012-11-05 by John P
I'm just about the opposite, building my first CGS supplied Serge modules last December. I'm now moving towards having mostly Serge modules in my modular having preferences to individual modules being used together to create the greater overall function, rather than all other manufacturer's modules having specific purposes.
This Group initially (last December) I had HOPED would be a great collective of Serge users. Barely a message is posted here nowadays though. Same thing at the Buchla, Serge, EMS section at muffwiggler (though a little heavier for Serge) and quadslope.com's Forum. Through this past year, it's been hard to find any populated posting area for Serge. That, is quite the drag. :(
Perhaps other Serge owners (purchased and DIY) see lesser of a need to post and share info? Dunno. Stumped.
2012-11-05 by Bill Sequeira
On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Richarius Molindarius <richmolindarius@...> wrote:
I'm just about the opposite, building my first CGS supplied Serge modules last December. I'm now moving towards having mostly Serge modules in my modular having preferences to individual modules being used together to create the greater overall function, rather than all other manufacturer's modules having specific purposes.
This Group initially (last December) I had HOPED would be a great collective of Serge users. Barely a message is posted here nowadays though. Same thing at the Buchla, Serge, EMS section at muffwiggler (though a little heavier for Serge) andquadslope.com's Forum. Through this past year, it's been hard to find any populated posting area for Serge. That, is quite the drag. :(
Perhaps other Serge owners (purchased and DIY) see lesser of a need to post and share info? Dunno. Stumped.On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:Hi Bill! Hope all is well.
Well, I have been around the list for some time, not posting hardly at all, as my Serge related activity is minimal compared to other music work that has consumed me. I've seen the for-sale posts. Guess they just don't bug me because the overall traffic with this group is really really low.
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Bill Sequeira <bill@...> wrote:
>
> (Hi Ed!) Yes indeed, there is that aspect of his prior post - but sounds like you may have missed the 5-year-old-selling-Serge-modules-in-a-lemonade-stand behavior from months back that cemented the bad reputation (and reaction).
>
> BTW - congrats John D for the cd sale numbers - good stuff. And when you were selling God's fingers you never pulled them back. ;-)
>
> Quadslope is where the interesting stuff went.
>
>
> Cheers -- Bill
> --------------------------
> "The only rule is work. If you work it will lead to something. It's the people who do all of the work all of the time who eventually catch on to things" -- John Cage
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
>
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here. What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> >>
> >> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> >>
> >> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> >>
> >> time to unsubscribe I guess
> >>
> >> k
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Keep on Patchin'!
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
2012-11-05 by Bill Sequeira
On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
> Hi Bill! Hope all is well.
>
> Well, I have been around the list for some time, not posting hardly at all, as my Serge related activity is minimal compared to other music work that has consumed me. I've seen the for-sale posts. Guess they just don't bug me because the overall traffic with this group is really really low.
>
> Ed
>
> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Bill Sequeira <bill@...> wrote:
>>
>> (Hi Ed!) Yes indeed, there is that aspect of his prior post - but sounds like you may have missed the 5-year-old-selling-Serge-modules-in-a-lemonade-stand behavior from months back that cemented the bad reputation (and reaction).
>>
>> BTW - congrats John D for the cd sale numbers - good stuff. And when you were selling God's fingers you never pulled them back. ;-)
>>
>> Quadslope is where the interesting stuff went.
>>
>>
>> Cheers -- Bill
>> --------------------------
>> "The only rule is work. If you work it will lead to something. It's the people who do all of the work all of the time who eventually catch on to things" -- John Cage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
>>
>>> I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here. What is wrong with that?
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
>>>>
>>>> it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge, only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
>>>>
>>>> time to unsubscribe I guess
>>>>
>>>> k
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Keep on Patchin'!
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Keep on Patchin'!
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
2012-11-05 by Richarius Molindarius
2012-11-05 by John Duval
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
John, where is Cassiopeia's Playground available? I'd like to get a copy.
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:
>
> indeed. fifteen years ago this could have been called the "duval by/sell
> list" . . .didn't hear any complaints. Must admit though that the list has
> changed somewhat.
> I'll take this opportunity to say "thanks you" to everyone who has
> purchased a copy or done a digital download of both my Serge CDs, Hells
> Canyon and Cassiopeia's Playground. There are only a few copies of Hells
> Canyon left at CDbaby which means that over the last nine years I've sold
> more copies than I ever dreamed possible. I figured I would be lucky to
> sell two or three. I got physical copy sale at CDbaby last week for the
> first time in several years. Woo wooo hahah
> Many thanks to all
> warm regards
> John DuVal
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dan Leuca <dubld68@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bakis this bakis that get a life gits...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * Edmund Eagan <ed@...>;
> > * To: * <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>;
> > * Subject: * [SergeModular] Re: FS: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, (960 euros
> > Total)
> > * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 11:22:04 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user
> > who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here.
> > What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> > >
> > > it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge,
> > only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> > >
> > > time to unsubscribe I guess
> > >
> > > k
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *J*
>
--
J
2012-11-05 by John Duval
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:17 AM, John P <johnp299792@...> wrote:
This list IS a great collective of Serge users, hopefuls and interested parties. Those who have the most to contribute, however, don't say much -- for a variety of good reasons I'm sure. For my part, I haven't had time to mess with the serge in years. I did just give a talk at the university I work at, which was lots of fun but which is prob'ly my last hurrah in the field. Can't say it hasn't been fun tho.I'm just about the opposite, building my first CGS supplied Serge modules last December. I'm now moving towards having mostly Serge modules in my modular having preferences to individual modules being used together to create the greater overall function, rather than all other manufacturer's modules having specific purposes.
This Group initially (last December) I had HOPED would be a great collective of Serge users. Barely a message is posted here nowadays though. Same thing at the Buchla, Serge, EMS section at muffwiggler (though a little heavier for Serge) and quadslope.com's Forum. Through this past year, it's been hard to find any populated posting area for Serge. That, is quite the drag. :(
Perhaps other Serge owners (purchased and DIY) see lesser of a need to post and share info? Dunno. Stumped.
--
J
2012-11-05 by Richarius Molindarius
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:19 PM, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:would have to agree. There is a relative lack of communication of actual application on this list but that is not a unique situation. Even during the time I was in the midst of a very creative period during which my two CDs were being composed I did not share any of my patches or "discoveries" if they could be called that. I did not share for one very simple reason; I didn't know what the hell I was doing and thought my efforts were beyond pedestrian bordering on gross amateurism. It took me over three years to get up the stones to even consider asking Dave Fulton of Dweller At The Threshold to listen to this stuff and help me assemble it into the final form of Hells Canyon and another four year to approach Darrell at Earth Mantra to release "Playground". I suspect that this might be the case for others also. I will say that about a year after I had to part with my system that there was a period of increased activity with patch sharing and some great tips on uses for the DSG which I loved to read about but was sad that I no longer had a system to try out the suggestions. I guess what I would say to everyone after all this time is this: if you don't know what your doing, so what? post up the patch. If you do think you know what your doing and your a little paranoid that someone is going to jack your supposed "technique", get over yourself and share anyway. LOL. . what do ya think is going to happen? some producer of documentaries is going to use your noise floor as the backdrop for his next Oscar nomination? ok, i'm being over the top and probably unnecessarily sarcastic but y'all get my drift. No one here is going to lose out on a gold record because they shared a patch or a goofy idea. And then again for others this is just a fun little hobby or exercise and putting stuff up on the list is just not their bag.
I called up Kevin one day years ago with some questions about his take on the Wilson delay and FS, I was curious about how to use these modules "properly" haha. His response was "stop asking questions, roll up your sleeves and get your hands dirty like I did".Sage advice from one of the masters.warm regardsJD--On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:17 AM, John P <johnp299792@...> wrote:
This list IS a great collective of Serge users, hopefuls and interested parties. Those who have the most to contribute, however, don't say much -- for a variety of good reasons I'm sure. For my part, I haven't had time to mess with the serge in years. I did just give a talk at the university I work at, which was lots of fun but which is prob'ly my last hurrah in the field. Can't say it hasn't been fun tho.I'm just about the opposite, building my first CGS supplied Serge modules last December. I'm now moving towards having mostly Serge modules in my modular having preferences to individual modules being used together to create the greater overall function, rather than all other manufacturer's modules having specific purposes.
This Group initially (last December) I had HOPED would be a great collective of Serge users. Barely a message is posted here nowadays though. Same thing at the Buchla, Serge, EMS section at muffwiggler (though a little heavier for Serge) and quadslope.com's Forum. Through this past year, it's been hard to find any populated posting area for Serge. That, is quite the drag. :(
Perhaps other Serge owners (purchased and DIY) see lesser of a need to post and share info? Dunno. Stumped.
J
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
2012-11-05 by Richarius Molindarius
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:54 PM, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:Ed and to anyone else who cares to listen. Cassiopeia's Playground is a free down load on Earth Mantra net label.
enjoy and thanks for your interest.JDOn Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
John, where is Cassiopeia's Playground available? I'd like to get a copy.
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:
>
> indeed. fifteen years ago this could have been called the "duval by/sell
> list" . . .didn't hear any complaints. Must admit though that the list has
> changed somewhat.
> I'll take this opportunity to say "thanks you" to everyone who has
> purchased a copy or done a digital download of both my Serge CDs, Hells
> Canyon and Cassiopeia's Playground. There are only a few copies of Hells
> Canyon left at CDbaby which means that over the last nine years I've sold
> more copies than I ever dreamed possible. I figured I would be lucky to
> sell two or three. I got physical copy sale at CDbaby last week for the
> first time in several years. Woo wooo hahah
> Many thanks to all
> warm regards
> John DuVal
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dan Leuca <dubld68@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bakis this bakis that get a life gits...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * Edmund Eagan <ed@...>;
> > * To: * <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>;
> > * Subject: * [SergeModular] Re: FS: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, (960 euros
> > Total)
> > * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 11:22:04 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user
> > who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here.
> > What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> > >
> > > it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge,
> > only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> > >
> > > time to unsubscribe I guess
> > >
> > > k
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *J*
>
--
J
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
2012-11-05 by John Duval
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Richarius Molindarius <richmolindarius@...> wrote:
John! YOU were / are owner of Fist of God? OMFG! Major bows of respect to you for amassing THAT monster! The couple of pics that I've seen of it ... to me ... that would be a heaven to be lost within! My current equivalent of 10 to 12 Serge panels is a meer speck in comparison to the size seen in pics of the Fist of God. :o
Chilling wonderfully at this mo' to Midnight From Rigel. :) From what I've heard in the 1st 5 minutes of it, I'm greatly looking foward to the rest of the album. :O :D
(I be an ol' timer who 'grew up' on Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, etc., with dreams of creating similar and inspired by, some day. :) I hadn't been able to get close enough until this year due to not having enough of a modular built, yet. )
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:54 PM, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:Ed and to anyone else who cares to listen. Cassiopeia's Playground is a free down load on Earth Mantra net label.
enjoy and thanks for your interest.JDOn Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
John, where is Cassiopeia's Playground available? I'd like to get a copy.
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:
>
> indeed. fifteen years ago this could have been called the "duval by/sell
> list" . . .didn't hear any complaints. Must admit though that the list has
> changed somewhat.
> I'll take this opportunity to say "thanks you" to everyone who has
> purchased a copy or done a digital download of both my Serge CDs, Hells
> Canyon and Cassiopeia's Playground. There are only a few copies of Hells
> Canyon left at CDbaby which means that over the last nine years I've sold
> more copies than I ever dreamed possible. I figured I would be lucky to
> sell two or three. I got physical copy sale at CDbaby last week for the
> first time in several years. Woo wooo hahah
> Many thanks to all
> warm regards
> John DuVal
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dan Leuca <dubld68@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bakis this bakis that get a life gits...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * Edmund Eagan <ed@...>;
> > * To: * <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>;
> > * Subject: * [SergeModular] Re: FS: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, (960 euros
> > Total)
> > * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 11:22:04 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user
> > who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here.
> > What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> > >
> > > it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge,
> > only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> > >
> > > time to unsubscribe I guess
> > >
> > > k
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *J*
>
--
J
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
--
J
2012-11-06 by Richarius Molindarius
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:43 PM, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:Thanks man but really, what you should be doing is extending major sympathy to me for being one of the most stupid people on the planet for building a ridiculously overbuilt 27 panel system. It became an addiction. I think the final count was over thirty five panels built but I never had that many at the same time as I would shuffle things around when I needed funding for other projects or when I would have brief moments of clarity and realize that I had just too freaking much and had crossed the line and I would sell a few off. . only to be replaced with another "custom brainstorm". The funny part was that when my run was over I realized the the very first panel I ever laid out (with help from Rex) was the best one, . . the basis for most of what came after and my "go to" panel for the entire life of my system.
Sympathy not! :) The lessons that you learned and this wisdom that you gained from and through that entire period, brought you to where you are right at this moment. It were a collective experience required to be able to move forward in your own direction.
As I looked through the list of modules that were in the 2003 photo yesterday, with only a year of Serge owning under my belt (combined with the previous 12 years of modular building) saw module excesses (the VCOs especially) and other parts missing or inappropriately chosen - imho - as a collective towards a whole. But that's ok ... the experience gained, good or bad, paid for it all. :)
If you have twelve panels you have more than enough no matter what the configuration. All of Hells Canyon was composed and recorded using only four panels. Cassiopeia's Playground was done with not more than ten or twelve but that's pushing it. So let that be a lesson to all you "wizards" out there. If you can't get on with six to ten panels you need to take stock of your goals and if you can't make the grand modular symphony of your dreams with twelve to sixteen you might consider therapy. Kevin did most of his masterpieces with a sixteen panel system. . .yea, it was so heavily modified that most of us would have found it hard to deal with.
One keypoint to remember here for composition with the # of panels had is where, the word in progress, is going to be recorded to. Ultimately, a multi-input / multi-track recorder, is the greatest desire. One that can sync to the Serge for later overdubbing.
That, is my key area of lacking. A few years ago I had bought the 2nd hand m-Audio 1010 - 10 channel bi-directional interface for recording. I knew a fair bit less back in those days electronics theory wise (not that I know that much more now! Lol ). Setting it up to begin learning and working with it, I spent days trying to figure out where the 60hz hum was coming from in my modular. (Weeks or months later, finding that I had 2 Ground loops causing it.) It took me forever and a day to realize that the trouble was inside the m-Audio 1010 itself and had to be repaired - which with all of the changing that continually occurs in my modular, I never did get TO.
My entire point of this portion being: I never have BEEN able to afford a multi-track recorder beyond 2 tracks, that also has Sync In and Out for overdubbing whilst recording from my modular. I've always had to have enough of the modular built, to be able to compose everything that I wished for a piece, to a single recording.
(Yes I could do overdubs afterwards. Being a 'sequences' nut, from 30+ years of listening to Tangerine Dream / adjusting the sequences live, for change / live improv., I far prefer being able to sync things together ... in immediacy / as opposed to practicing my keyboard playing chops over and over and ... (my own fault, there)).
Which brings me to my overall point - since coming back to building modular gear again in the Summer of '05, my monster had been continually growing towards having enough 'voices' and sequencers that I felt comfortable with (hardware sequencers instead of MIDI), to compose.
Continually building; trashing; building new; refining and all that rot, by last November, I'd felt that I'd finally reached the point where I could begin composing with everything that I had built. And then, the 'Serge desire' that had been floating around since getting my 1st catalog from Rex back in '92, bit me again. And THAT is where the direction that I was headed changed, completely.
Sound - is basically my life. Creating it. Editing it. Making new explorations of moods; in change; over time. The 'standard' / 'meat and potatoes' type modular gear that I had been building for 6 years hadn't been able quite, to approach what was in head; my desires. All of the reading / studying / learning that I began doing in earnest last November finally opened my eyes to new ways to get to where, I wished to be in creating new sonic movements. The basics of operations from the Serge modules were my 'key'.
And that John - is what I've been doing on and off over the last year. Purchasing Serge Tcherepnin approved PCBs from cgs.synth.net ; modifying some of them (including giving the Programmer Sequencer, the same functionality as the Moog Q960 Sequencer - play / skip / halt per step, in both directions) and building my own Serge PCBs from schematics.
My desire which had partially been, to have a monstrous system and moreso - to have a powerful system has been slightly modified now from the long posting of your own: further clarity in the modules that I feel will be most useful to me in creating the audio that I wish to - will help me choose how many of which other modules that I will build from here on as well as which of the older 'meat and potatoes' modules that still exist in my system, may no longer be needed. (Partially, to assist in keeping my system to a manageable size.)
At the mo' I've between 3 to 4 full panels of actual Serge modules, with my entire monster being somewhere between 10 to 12 Serge panels in size. There's more fine tuning to do; what to keep and what to scrap and replace by the proper Serge modules that can cover the scrapped functions as well as do other functions. And to be able to do as much of it in one take, with as little overdubbing as possible.
Thank you greatly for all of the experiences that you went through John, that brought you to where you are in life at the moment - to create that huge post that has helped fine tune my direction. I shall now reach my destination far quicker than I would have without reading that. :)
And the guitar ... my first instrument learned and played, 40 years and 2 months ago. I rarely touch it nowadays. It can't assist my travelling towards my destination in much of any way. (Though, the bass guitar can and does. ;) )
Respect.I still have another CD. . maybe two of material (pieces and sketches) that incorporate most of my later panel configurations but I doubt they will ever see the light of day. I'm just not that interested and life's circumstances kind of preclude that nothing will ever be done about that.I don't miss my system; it was an embarrassment. I do however miss having a few panels to experiment and play with but that's just dream now. I'll settle now for my life long love the guitar.The Serge Modular was an addiction that for some reason I couldn't shake. The first time I ever laid eyes on one panel was at the Oakland STS office and two thoughts formed immediately in my head; one: I don't have the slightest idea what is going on here and, two: I can make music with this.my two cents worthwarm regardsJDOn Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Richarius Molindarius <richmolindarius@...> wrote:
John! YOU were / are owner of Fist of God? OMFG! Major bows of respect to you for amassing THAT monster! The couple of pics that I've seen of it ... to me ... that would be a heaven to be lost within! My current equivalent of 10 to 12 Serge panels is a meer speck in comparison to the size seen in pics of the Fist of God. :o
Chilling wonderfully at this mo' to Midnight From Rigel. :) From what I've heard in the 1st 5 minutes of it, I'm greatly looking foward to the rest of the album. :O :D
(I be an ol' timer who 'grew up' on Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, etc., with dreams of creating similar and inspired by, some day. :) I hadn't been able to get close enough until this year due to not having enough of a modular built, yet. )
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:54 PM, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:Ed and to anyone else who cares to listen. Cassiopeia's Playground is a free down load on Earth Mantra net label.
enjoy and thanks for your interest.JDOn Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
John, where is Cassiopeia's Playground available? I'd like to get a copy.
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:
>
> indeed. fifteen years ago this could have been called the "duval by/sell
> list" . . .didn't hear any complaints. Must admit though that the list has
> changed somewhat.
> I'll take this opportunity to say "thanks you" to everyone who has
> purchased a copy or done a digital download of both my Serge CDs, Hells
> Canyon and Cassiopeia's Playground. There are only a few copies of Hells
> Canyon left at CDbaby which means that over the last nine years I've sold
> more copies than I ever dreamed possible. I figured I would be lucky to
> sell two or three. I got physical copy sale at CDbaby last week for the
> first time in several years. Woo wooo hahah
> Many thanks to all
> warm regards
> John DuVal
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dan Leuca <dubld68@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bakis this bakis that get a life gits...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * Edmund Eagan <ed@...>;
> > * To: * <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>;
> > * Subject: * [SergeModular] Re: FS: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, (960 euros
> > Total)
> > * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 11:22:04 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user
> > who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here.
> > What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> > >
> > > it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge,
> > only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> > >
> > > time to unsubscribe I guess
> > >
> > > k
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *J*
>
--
J
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
--
J
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
2012-11-06 by John Duval
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Richarius Molindarius <richmolindarius@...> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:43 PM, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:Thanks man but really, what you should be doing is extending major sympathy to me for being one of the most stupid people on the planet for building a ridiculously overbuilt 27 panel system. It became an addiction. I think the final count was over thirty five panels built but I never had that many at the same time as I would shuffle things around when I needed funding for other projects or when I would have brief moments of clarity and realize that I had just too freaking much and had crossed the line and I would sell a few off. . only to be replaced with another "custom brainstorm". The funny part was that when my run was over I realized the the very first panel I ever laid out (with help from Rex) was the best one, . . the basis for most of what came after and my "go to" panel for the entire life of my system.
Sympathy not! :) The lessons that you learned and this wisdom that you gained from and through that entire period, brought you to where you are right at this moment. It were a collective experience required to be able to move forward in your own direction.
As I looked through the list of modules that were in the 2003 photo yesterday, with only a year of Serge owning under my belt (combined with the previous 12 years of modular building) saw module excesses (the VCOs especially) and other parts missing or inappropriately chosen - imho - as a collective towards a whole. But that's ok ... the experience gained, good or bad, paid for it all. :)
If you have twelve panels you have more than enough no matter what the configuration. All of Hells Canyon was composed and recorded using only four panels. Cassiopeia's Playground was done with not more than ten or twelve but that's pushing it. So let that be a lesson to all you "wizards" out there. If you can't get on with six to ten panels you need to take stock of your goals and if you can't make the grand modular symphony of your dreams with twelve to sixteen you might consider therapy. Kevin did most of his masterpieces with a sixteen panel system. . .yea, it was so heavily modified that most of us would have found it hard to deal with.
One keypoint to remember here for composition with the # of panels had is where, the word in progress, is going to be recorded to. Ultimately, a multi-input / multi-track recorder, is the greatest desire. One that can sync to the Serge for later overdubbing.
That, is my key area of lacking. A few years ago I had bought the 2nd hand m-Audio 1010 - 10 channel bi-directional interface for recording. I knew a fair bit less back in those days electronics theory wise (not that I know that much more now! Lol ). Setting it up to begin learning and working with it, I spent days trying to figure out where the 60hz hum was coming from in my modular. (Weeks or months later, finding that I had 2 Ground loops causing it.) It took me forever and a day to realize that the trouble was inside the m-Audio 1010 itself and had to be repaired - which with all of the changing that continually occurs in my modular, I never did get TO.
My entire point of this portion being: I never have BEEN able to afford a multi-track recorder beyond 2 tracks, that also has Sync In and Out for overdubbing whilst recording from my modular. I've always had to have enough of the modular built, to be able to compose everything that I wished for a piece, to a single recording.
(Yes I could do overdubs afterwards. Being a 'sequences' nut, from 30+ years of listening to Tangerine Dream / adjusting the sequences live, for change / live improv., I far prefer being able to sync things together ... in immediacy / as opposed to practicing my keyboard playing chops over and over and ... (my own fault, there)).
Which brings me to my overall point - since coming back to building modular gear again in the Summer of '05, my monster had been continually growing towards having enough 'voices' and sequencers that I felt comfortable with (hardware sequencers instead of MIDI), to compose.
Continually building; trashing; building new; refining and all that rot, by last November, I'd felt that I'd finally reached the point where I could begin composing with everything that I had built. And then, the 'Serge desire' that had been floating around since getting my 1st catalog from Rex back in '92, bit me again. And THAT is where the direction that I was headed changed, completely.
Sound - is basically my life. Creating it. Editing it. Making new explorations of moods; in change; over time. The 'standard' / 'meat and potatoes' type modular gear that I had been building for 6 years hadn't been able quite, to approach what was in head; my desires. All of the reading / studying / learning that I began doing in earnest last November finally opened my eyes to new ways to get to where, I wished to be in creating new sonic movements. The basics of operations from the Serge modules were my 'key'.
And that John - is what I've been doing on and off over the last year. Purchasing Serge Tcherepnin approved PCBs from cgs.synth.net ; modifying some of them (including giving the Programmer Sequencer, the same functionality as the Moog Q960 Sequencer - play / skip / halt per step, in both directions) and building my own Serge PCBs from schematics.
My desire which had partially been, to have a monstrous system and moreso - to have a powerful system has been slightly modified now from the long posting of your own: further clarity in the modules that I feel will be most useful to me in creating the audio that I wish to - will help me choose how many of which other modules that I will build from here on as well as which of the older 'meat and potatoes' modules that still exist in my system, may no longer be needed. (Partially, to assist in keeping my system to a manageable size.)
At the mo' I've between 3 to 4 full panels of actual Serge modules, with my entire monster being somewhere between 10 to 12 Serge panels in size. There's more fine tuning to do; what to keep and what to scrap and replace by the proper Serge modules that can cover the scrapped functions as well as do other functions. And to be able to do as much of it in one take, with as little overdubbing as possible.
Thank you greatly for all of the experiences that you went through John, that brought you to where you are in life at the moment - to create that huge post that has helped fine tune my direction. I shall now reach my destination far quicker than I would have without reading that. :)
And the guitar ... my first instrument learned and played, 40 years and 2 months ago. I rarely touch it nowadays. It can't assist my travelling towards my destination in much of any way. (Though, the bass guitar can and does. ;) )
Respect.I still have another CD. . maybe two of material (pieces and sketches) that incorporate most of my later panel configurations but I doubt they will ever see the light of day. I'm just not that interested and life's circumstances kind of preclude that nothing will ever be done about that.I don't miss my system; it was an embarrassment. I do however miss having a few panels to experiment and play with but that's just dream now. I'll settle now for my life long love the guitar.The Serge Modular was an addiction that for some reason I couldn't shake. The first time I ever laid eyes on one panel was at the Oakland STS office and two thoughts formed immediately in my head; one: I don't have the slightest idea what is going on here and, two: I can make music with this.my two cents worthwarm regardsJDOn Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Richarius Molindarius <richmolindarius@...> wrote:
John! YOU were / are owner of Fist of God? OMFG! Major bows of respect to you for amassing THAT monster! The couple of pics that I've seen of it ... to me ... that would be a heaven to be lost within! My current equivalent of 10 to 12 Serge panels is a meer speck in comparison to the size seen in pics of the Fist of God. :o
Chilling wonderfully at this mo' to Midnight From Rigel. :) From what I've heard in the 1st 5 minutes of it, I'm greatly looking foward to the rest of the album. :O :D
(I be an ol' timer who 'grew up' on Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, etc., with dreams of creating similar and inspired by, some day. :) I hadn't been able to get close enough until this year due to not having enough of a modular built, yet. )
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:54 PM, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:Ed and to anyone else who cares to listen. Cassiopeia's Playground is a free down load on Earth Mantra net label.
enjoy and thanks for your interest.JDOn Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Edmund Eagan <ed@...> wrote:
John, where is Cassiopeia's Playground available? I'd like to get a copy.
Ed
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John Duval <johnduval82@...> wrote:
>
> indeed. fifteen years ago this could have been called the "duval by/sell
> list" . . .didn't hear any complaints. Must admit though that the list has
> changed somewhat.
> I'll take this opportunity to say "thanks you" to everyone who has
> purchased a copy or done a digital download of both my Serge CDs, Hells
> Canyon and Cassiopeia's Playground. There are only a few copies of Hells
> Canyon left at CDbaby which means that over the last nine years I've sold
> more copies than I ever dreamed possible. I figured I would be lucky to
> sell two or three. I got physical copy sale at CDbaby last week for the
> first time in several years. Woo wooo hahah
> Many thanks to all
> warm regards
> John DuVal
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dan Leuca <dubld68@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bakis this bakis that get a life gits...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * Edmund Eagan <ed@...>;
> > * To: * <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>;
> > * Subject: * [SergeModular] Re: FS: Serge ASR/Quan m-odule, (960 euros
> > Total)
> > * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 11:22:04 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I actually like Bakis' activity on this list. Seems to be an active user
> > who makes music with Serge modules, and connects with the community here.
> > What is wrong with that?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Kent Sparling <ks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > can we just rename this group "bakis' serge buy-sell-trade list"
> > >
> > > it would seem no one has anything interesting to share regarding serge,
> > only what they wish to buy, or sell or trade
> > >
> > > time to unsubscribe I guess
> > >
> > > k
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *J*
>
--
J
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
--
J
--
Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
Rich
http://www.damian.deathlehem.com/ - my modular synth
http://www.soundcloud.com/Richarius - my latest composition snippets
http://www.youtube.com/dolphinicus/ - various module videos of mine / etc.
--
J