Hey Roel -
see my replies inline below -
see my replies inline below -
On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:34 AM, roelelec wrote:
> Hi Kim,
>
> You say stick a trigger into the trig. in, but I have learned that
> you have different kind of triggers and enveloppes in the Serge and
> not all are sufficient in each situation. Is a pulse from the random
> source the right guy? With other words, Do you need a random trigger
> to create a AR?
i just plug something into the "trig in" on my DTG and DSG and if it
triggers a cycle - its a trigger :)
any voltage with a sharp rising edge should do it - i also have an
envelope detector and an NCOM on my panels and both can
turn an audio signal into a signal useful for triggering..
> Since I have no TKB and no sequencer, a enveloppe will react in a
> different way, then when you trigger it via keys or a sequencer. And
> probably also different when I connect a EG to a oscillator on my
> Doepfer A100.
> That's something I thought. In some cases the 4 outputs of the DTG
> are not audio, but subaudio. I find out that when you don't touch the
> rise and fall knobs the right blue out is a subaudio triangle wave,
> which can be used for modulation. As soon as you tweak those knobs,
> your entering audio territory and get, depending on the position saw
> or inverse saw. The red one below is subaudio pulse, when tweaking
> knobs you get pwm. Which is cool, but took me some time to figure this
> out.
I always thought of the controls on the DTG in reverse of what you
describe here
- with the "normal" position of the knobs fully
clock-wise -
we all have our own personal approach to the Serge i guess.
>
> What I want to know is, if these AR and ASR's are sufficient enough
> for rhythmic melodies or that I still need the extended ADSR's.
My first panel was a custom one very similar to the animal shop panel
- with a DTG as the only eg source
That was my only panel for the next 6 years.
The DTG and DSG are fine for envelope duty - the ADSR is nice when you
use voltage control of the individual stages
but apart from that theres not that much of a difference IMO
>
all the best, - Kim