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Re: My first (and last) custom panel

2007-06-02 by Kim Hansen

I've ordered this:

QUAN(tkb) - PCO - NCOM - PDIV - RS - SSG - CVPRO - DSG - ADSR

Maybe you should get the dual mixer if youre going to work in stereo

seems your system will be lacking in mixing capabillity ?

Kim



On Jun 2, 2007, at 2:49 AM, matthew carpenter wrote:

> Yep, 16" is what we have to work with. It definitely encourages some
> creative and strenuous thought when planning the panel.
>
> Have you finalized what yours will be? I'm still trying to decide on
> the last 1 or 2 inches. I would certainly get the Matrix Mixer if I
> could but that's 4"!
>
>
> On 6/1/07, Kim Hansen <kimgh@...> wrote:
>>
>> I'd certainly like to have the two other serge vcf's but as we all
>> know
>> 16" is never enough ;)
>>
>> two multimode vcf's from
>> the roland system 700.
>>
>> The matrix mixer is VERY handy for things like this, - routing audio
>> in and out of the serge.
>> With the dual vca module and the matrix mixer i recently had a patch
>> where i had the roland filter
>> routed back to itself giving extra resonance under voltage control.
>> Or i use it with a tape-echo or my eventide or lexicon.
>>
>> I'll get the other serge vcf's sometime in the future but for now i
>> can
>> do without..
>>
>> On May 31, 2007, at 12:53 AM, matthew carpenter wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I haven't had a use for a quantizer. I would rather use the
>> > space for something like a Boolean Logic or Schmitt Trigger. I'm
>> > interested in creating very stupid artificial intelligence or
>> > something like that. That, and having all of the Serge manglers and
>> > filters! That's what you're lacking. That's an interesting and very
>> > nice selection. How is the matrix mixer? I just noticed that you
>> have
>> > the VCFQ(X) and EQ but no VCF2 or VCFS. Maybe your Filter is my
>> > Quantizer?
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/30/07, Kim Hansen <kimgh@...> wrote:
>> >> sequencer panel later ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I was also in the process of planning a custom panel
>> >> when Rex's mail dropped, - so i've just ordered it before the
>> >> deadline.
>> >> I'd been planning and giving it a lot of thought for some time now,
>> >> so i'm pretty confident that it's the layout i want - but i'd still
>> >> like all you fellow sergers comments and advice.
>> >>
>> >> what i've ordered:
>> >>
>> >> QUAN(tkb) - PCO - NCOM - PDIV - RS - SSG - CVPRO - DSG - ADSR
>> >>
>> >> what i've already got:
>> >>
>> >> panel #1:
>> >>
>> >> PNRV - NTO - PCO - RING - VCM - AMX - VCFQX - DTG - UAP
>> >>
>> >> panel #2:
>> >>
>> >> FRS - CM - EQ - MAX - PRC - SPRC - 2VCA
>> >>
>> >> panel #3
>> >>
>> >> SEQ8 - DUAL ASR - ACPR - DTG - BLOG - SQP4
>> >>
>> >> I mean to get a TKB later, hence the QUAN for tkb.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think should be different in the new panel ?
>> >> I like to use my serge equally for processing external sources,
>> noise
>> >> sculpture and regular synth stuff.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kim
>> >>
>> >> http://www.antenne.suite.dk
>> >>
>> >> On May 30, 2007, at 11:41 PM, matthew carpenter wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Haha, no no. Sorry, I hijacked this thread and now you're
>> confusing
>> >> me
>> >> > with the other guy. I hope he doesn't feel left out! There's
>> just so
>> >> > little time to decide!
>> >> >
>> >> > I have the three panel system I posted pics of and was looking
>> at a
>> >> > panel that's comprised of a few things from the Soup Kitchen. My
>> >> > future plans were two custom panels with a mix of sequencing and
>> >> > effects but that ain't gonna happen, now.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you, or any other list members have experience with the ext.
>> >> > carrier version of the Frequency Shifter? (Yep, I've read the
>> entire
>> >> > history of this list and search the archives for comments on
>> >> specific
>> >> > modules from time to time)
>> >> >
>> >> > And, yeah, I did learn a thing or two from the rise and fall of
>> the
>> >> > Fist, John, don't worry!
>> >> >
>> >> > I thought I'd take the liberty of making this THE 'final custom
>> >> panel'
>> >> > thread -- sorry!
>> >> >
>> >> >My current config, for anyone who wishes to comment:
>> >> >
>> >> > NTO / PCO / VCM / AMX (w/ phase switch) / SSG w/ noise / DTG (w/
>> sig
>> >> > ins) / VCFQ(X) / UAP
>> >> >
>> >> > BUFF / SCPR / ACPR / ADSR / ADSR / VCF2 / MIX2 / VCFQ(X) / EQ
>> >> >
>> >> > NTO / TWS / RING / NCOM / ACPR / 2RVG / DTG / VCFS / 2PHA
>> >> >
>> >> > I will certainly add a sequencer and/or TKB in the future so this
>> >> last
>> >> > custom panel is meant to cover some territory I don't have
>> covered,
>> >> > already:
>> >> >
>> >> > PRNV / CM / FRS(X) / QUO(?) / XFAD / WAD / BUFF / AMX / VCM /
>> DCSM
>> >> >
>> >> > I already have a VCM so I'm not sure about that one. But you
>> can't
>> >> get
>> >> > one anywhere else and I'd hate to buy a Soup Kitchen just for a
>> VCM.
>> >> > Anyway, that's my idea. Looks like a Soup Kitchen but I already
>> have
>> >> > a 2PHA and I'm thinking of going for the ext. carrier version of
>> the
>> >> > Frequency Shifter, which it doesn't seem like either of the SK's
>> >> use.
>> >> > So, the VCM and QUO spots are up for grabs, pretty much, and IMO,
>> >> you
>> >> > can't have enough scaling buffers or mixers.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/30/07, darkstr1746@... <darkstr1746@... >
>> >> > wrote:So it looks like your going to have two FRS and two WADs???
>> >> > sonic damage abounds!! hahaha. With that set up, i personally
>> don't
>> >> > see any benifit by adding the BUFF and STR. But that's just my
>> >> opinion
>> >> > based on how i used that configuration. Others who are more
>> >> > knowledgable with that module might shed some light. Not sure
>> about
>> >> > the NCOM in conjunction with that panel but it might fit in with
>> the
>> >> > othe panels better. One thing i learned from hard experience was
>> >> that
>> >> > when at all possible you should stick with "like functioning"
>> >> modules
>> >> > in one panel. I made several panels that when used with my
>> system as
>> >> > it was then were quite functional and made sense but when looked
>> at
>> >> as
>> >> > "stand alones" were a complete train wreck and exceedingly hard
>> to
>> >> > sell later on. Just a word of wisdom.
>> >> >> So choose wisely Grasshoppa : )
>> >> >> kind regards
>> >> >>
>> >> >> jduval
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> >> >>> From: "matthew carpenter" <matfhew.carpenfer@ gmail.com>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Right, John, thank you.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Here's the layout I'm considering for a complement to my other
>> >> three:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> PRNV / FRS(X) / CM / XFAD / QUO / WAD / BUFF / AMX / NCOM /
>> STR /
>> >> >>> DCSM
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I may change the sequence. Only shop panels I can foresee
>> picking
>> >> >>> up in the future would be the Sequencer panel and a TKB. So,
>> the
>> >> >>> panel above is in keeping with those plans so I don't
>> >> unnecessarily
>> >> >>> duplicate something.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Is it correct to assume that a QUO is a good addition to the
>> FRS
>> >> >>> with external carrier since it doesn't have a QUO on board like
>> >> the
>> >> >>> non-ext. carrier version?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 5/30/07, darkstr1746@... < darkstr1746@...
>> >
>> >> >>> wrote: All Freq Shift modules are 3" the extra space being
>> taken
>> >> up
>> >> >>> by the CM. Rex will tell you that he doesn't do single modules.
>> >> That
>> >> >>> horse has been beat to death for years. The shop panels
>> >> >>> configuration is set.Anythingelse is custom and will probably
>> >> stay
>> >> >>> that way.
>> >> >>>> The only way for everyone to get a handle on this is to make
>> the
>> >> >>>> phone call. Check out his head space and see what the deal is
>> on
>> >> an
>> >> >>>> individual basis.
>> >> >>>> jduval
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> >> >>>>> From: "matthew carpenter" < matfhew.carpenfer@...>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> How many inches does each version of the Frequency Shifter
>> take?
>> >> >>>>> The table says 3 but the pictures of the panels show 2.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On 5/30/07, matthew carpenter < matfhew.carpenfer@...>
>> >> >>>>> wrote: I use the Active Processor all the time for audio.
>> I'll
>> >> let
>> >> >>>>> you know if it'll do a jump cut.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Yes, I'd like to place a last minute order, too. Such short
>> >> >>>>>> notice!
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Right, that was my point about getting a panel with certain
>> >> >>>>>> modules that we won't see on the shop panels... Or will we?
>> All
>> >> >>>>>> of this raises more questions such as: Will there be new
>> shop
>> >> >>>>>> panels with different configurations? Is Rex going to do
>> >> >>>>>> individual modules? Answers to these questions may be more
>> >> >>>>>> forthcoming by phone but they would certainly help me make
>> my
>> >> >>>>>> decision more easily.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 5/30/07, riluttante < riluttante@...> wrote: ---
>> In
>> >> >>>>>> SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "matthew carpenter"
>> >> >>>>>> <matfhew.carpenfer @...>
>> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>>>> > Yeah, I like the Triple Waveshaper and Wave Multipliers,
>> >> too.
>> >> >>>>>>> The EQ is
>> >> >>>>>>> > brilliant, and the VCF2, I've yet to form a more solid
>> >> opinion
>> >> >>>>>>> on, and I
>> >> >>>>>>> > have two Active Processors which I use all the time. The
>> >> NCOM
>> >> >>>>>>> is great, too,
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Can you get the Active Processors to make a real hard
>> >> jump-cut,
>> >> >>>>>>> with no audible "fade"
>> >> >>>>>>> between the signals, when used with audio?
>> >> >>>>>>> Or does nobody use the AP with audio?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> > so many uses, and Rex called it a rock crusher, once.
>> I'll
>> >> be
>> >> >>>>>>> getting
>> >> >>>>>>> > another, and most of the lefthand side of a Soup Kitchen.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> So you're placing a last-minute custom order too?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> > But, should any of us consider a module that we wouldn
>> 't be
>> >> >>>>>>> able to get on a
>> >> >>>>>>> > shop panel, or in a practical combination with o ther
>> >> modules?
>> >> >>>>>>> How about a
>> >> >>>>>>> > Matrix Mixer, for example? A Dual Schmitt Trigger? Does
>> >> anyone
>> >> >>>>>>> have either?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Yeah, I guess those are history, at least in the way we
>> know
>> >> >>>>>>> them. I don't have a particular
>> >> >>>>>>> need for either of those modules, I think, but you're
>> right in
>> >> >>>>>>> that if you'd want to own one,
>> >> >>>>>>> you'd need to put a panel together right now. There's no
>> way
>> >> I'm
>> >> >>>>>>> ordering another
>> >> >>>>>>> complete Soup Kitchen, but I really want another Wave
>> >> Multiplier
>> >> >>>>>>> and EQ.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

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