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Re: Early Serge 2 Panel System Available

2002-03-27 by mm123 ah

>First off and importantly.....
>you have the absolute right to price your system at what ever level you are
>comfortable with.

Thank you :)

>Other than that my opinion is that Matt (or Blake....is this a version of
>'good cop, bad cop'?)

M Blake is the bad cop. Matt B. is the good cop. Or is it the other way
around? :)

>is right. This is surely a forum for debate and if you post to it you have
>to expect people with different opinions to say their piece. Perhaps Matt
>could have politely advised that in his experience older Serge systems are
>harder to sell and that during the current 'war against terrorism' prices
>have fallen. Whatever..

Matt / Blake's message seemed to me an effort to detract from my offer,
which I would not do to anyone else and certainly cant appreciate. If you
were the seller you would not appreciate it either. He stated that my Serge
is not worth what I wanted for it yet refused to back that up with
documented prices of similar Serge gear which has actually sold. Anyone can
say that someone's asking too much for something but then insisting it
should cost 1/2 the price without citing prices of similar past sales is
wrong. I saw DuVal's used Serge panels priced at over double what I priced
these at and did not think it was wrong to ask 1/2 of what more recent used
Serge is priced at.

>I think a few of you have dismissed his other points rather unfairly as
>well. The first thing that concerns me when considering a pre STS Serge
>system is build quality. It may be that this system is superb but many were
>put together from kits, the front panel was covered in paper! and a tech
>friend of mine whose had a couple of similar systems pass through said they
>were both "dogs".

The system I am selling is NOT a dog. Build quality is fine as are
cosmetics and functionality is fine and to my knowledge has been fine since
the 70s. Maybe this is one of the best Serges from that period? That would
be even more reason for it to fetch a good price.

>On the AMS front: One system is MUCH better featured than the one being
>discussed here. The other is similarly priced at $2,000 but although these
>are 'client sales' you have got to think that there is a certain dealer
>back
>up, if nothing else you don't have to worry about having your money stolen.

Check my ebay feedback before you practically imply that I steal peoples
money. Also, you should realize that this is a synthesizer I have in my
possession and have personally tested. if AMS is listing it as a clients
synth, i doubt its going to go through them before the sale and i would also
doubt that they would assume responsibility for it if it was misrepresented
by the client. (the clients apparently pay for advertising on the site - im
not sure if AMSs involvement goes any further than that) besides, there are
many dealers out there who do not even test what they have for sale.

>I happen to know that neither system has seen any interest.

so what are your comments on the price of the serge on oldtech? and how do
you know for a fact that there has been no interest in these systems?

Kevin Lightner
>is trying to sell more recent panels and his bids seem to top out around
>the
>$1,000 mark. I certainly find the comment that 'your system is worth
>double'
>to come from cloud cuckoo land.

did i make that comment? if so, its worth that to me, if its not worth that
to someone else than i will keep it, change my price or wait until i find
someone who wants it for that.

>Finally my axe to grind....
>I'm trying to sell a 4 year old, 2 panel system in pretty much mint
>condition for below what I paid for it in 1998.

whats the price?

No serious enquiries. I
>certainly expected to get the odd ' I'll give you two grand for it' punt.
>I'd be interested to know if John Duval has had any enquiries for his 4
>panels.

me too. i thought a while ago he had a sale and most of the panels were
bought, then he listed another round. please correct me if i am wrong.



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