QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hi All, I hope someone can help. I just loaded my K-7 inks and  
installed the rip and Epson R800 profiles and started with Epson  
Matte/Hwt paper to get set up. The print looks great but there are  
two lines  of 3/8 inch scrapes just about the whole length of the  
print. It looks like the print head or something else is making  
contact. I put it back on the Epson print settings and it went  
through fine. Is like the matte setting is not raising the print head  
enough. Has anyone had a similar problem and is there a fix.

Thanks,

Dave Polcyn

I have had a similar problem.  With the Epson printer driver, I use 
the "Thick Paper and Envelopes" setting under Printer Settings -
>Maintenance->Printer and Option Information and it solves this 
problem.  Unfortunately, QTR does not have a similar option, which 
severely limits the range of papers that I can use with QTR... 
effectively ruling out most matte papers.

Matt


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, David Polcyn <davepolcyn@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi All, I hope someone can help. I just loaded my K-7 inks and  
> installed the rip and Epson R800 profiles and started with Epson  
> Matte/Hwt paper to get set up. The print looks great but there 
are  
> two lines  of 3/8 inch scrapes just about the whole length of the  
> print. It looks like the print head or something else is making  
> contact. I put it back on the Epson print settings and it went  
> through fine. Is like the matte setting is not raising the print 
head  

> enough. Has anyone had a similar problem and is there a fix.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave Polcyn
>

I haven't heard of head scraping on the R800 and people use a lot 
thicker
paper than Epson HW Matte.
It's hard to visualize what you mean by 3/8 inch scrapes but I suspect 
that
you are getting some banding or roller wheel scrapes.
In the email you sent me you used 1440 resolution.  The R800 is best at
2880 dpi and that is what all the K7 profiles are designed for.   The 
other issue
is that the print top and bottom areas are always more prone to banding.
Leaving more white margin is a good idea.

Roy

On Sunday, March 11, 2007, at 03:46  PM, David Polcyn wrote:

> Hi All, I hope someone can help. I just loaded my K-7 inks and
> installed the rip and Epson R800 profiles and started with Epson
> Matte/Hwt paper to get set up. The print looks great but there are
> two lines  of 3/8 inch scrapes just about the whole length of the
> print. It looks like the print head or something else is making
> contact. I put it back on the Epson print settings and it went
> through fine. Is like the matte setting is not raising the print head
> enough. Has anyone had a similar problem and is there a fix.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Polcyn
>
>
-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

Hi Roy,

This is a problem I have had with Epson HW Matte as well.  The print 
head scrapes the paper and scratches the ink right off - so the 
scratches are spaced at 1 per print head pass across the paper. 

This seems to be caused because the Epson HW Matte paper swells a 
bit when it is saturated with ink... and this paper is VERY easy to 
saturate with ink.

Since HW Matte paper is thin, it does not exhibit the usual "thick 
paper" problem of the print head knocking against the edge of the 
page at the beginning or end.  But the swelling is a problem.

Using the Epson driver, I have resolved this issue by using 
the "thick paper and envelopes" setting. 

On account of this problem (most paper is either too thick, or thin 
enough but swells up) I have definitely had trouble finding matte 
paper that does not require the "thick paper and envelopes" setting 
for the R800.

Has anyone else had any luck?

Thanks!

Matt


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't heard of head scraping on the R800 and people use a lot 
> thicker
> paper than Epson HW Matte.
> It's hard to visualize what you mean by 3/8 inch scrapes but I 
suspect 
> that
> you are getting some banding or roller wheel scrapes.
> In the email you sent me you used 1440 resolution.  The R800 is 
best at
> 2880 dpi and that is what all the K7 profiles are designed for.   
The 
> other issue
> is that the print top and bottom areas are always more prone to 
banding.
> Leaving more white margin is a good idea.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Sunday, March 11, 2007, at 03:46  PM, David Polcyn wrote:
> 
> > Hi All, I hope someone can help. I just loaded my K-7 inks and
> > installed the rip and Epson R800 profiles and started with Epson
> > Matte/Hwt paper to get set up. The print looks great but there 
are
> > two lines  of 3/8 inch scrapes just about the whole length of the
> > print. It looks like the print head or something else is making
> > contact. I put it back on the Epson print settings and it went
> > through fine. Is like the matte setting is not raising the print 
head

> > enough. Has anyone had a similar problem and is there a fix.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave Polcyn
> >
> >
> -
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> Black & White Photo Gallery
> http://www.harrington.com
>

Thanks for your prompt reply. I changed the driver to 2.5, installed  
the profiles, changed the resolution to 2880 and now it takes a sheet  
of paper and seats it, then runs it out without printing. At least  
there are no scrapes this time. Thanks for you help,
Dave Polcyn

Last login: Mon Mar 12 21:48:49 on ttyp1
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Welcome to Darwin!
david-polcyns-powermacg3series:~ davepolcyn$ /Applications/ 
QuadtoneRip/DiagnosticScript.command; exit

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Mon Mar 12 23:19:45 EDT 2007

**** System Info ****
Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep  8 17:18:57 PDT 2006;  
root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

**** Printer Info ****
scheduler is running
system default destination: QuadR800-K7
device for QuadR800-K7: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800? 
serial=NKO210404171147520
device for Stylus_Photo_R800: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800? 
serial=NKO210404171147520
device for Stylus_Photo_R800-1: ///dev/null
QuadR800-K7 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00
Stylus_Photo_R800 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00
Stylus_Photo_R800-1 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00
printer QuadR800-K7 is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00
         Ready to print.
printer Stylus_Photo_R800 is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00
printer Stylus_Photo_R800-1 is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00

**** QTR Programs ****
/usr/local/bin
Quad.pm*        qcurve*         qgamma*         qmerge*          
quadcurves*
qacv*           qdensity*       qgraph*         qpart*           
quadprofile*
qacvraw*        qdiff*          qlimit*         qplot*
qadd*           qdotgain*       qline*          qspline*

/usr/libexec/cups/filter
quadtoneprint*  quadtoprinter*

**** Plugin Programs ****
total 0
drwxrwxrwx   3 root      admin  102 Feb 27 22:29 AdobePDFPDE.plugin
drwxr-xr-x   3 davepolc  admin  102 May 23  2006 QuadTone.plugin

**** QTR Printer Descriptions ****
/usr/share/cups/model/C
escp2-10000-quad.ppd.gz         escp2-860-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1160-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-870-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1200-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-890-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1270-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9000-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1280-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9500-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1290-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9600-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-2000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-980-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-2100-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9800-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-2200-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-EX-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-3000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R1800-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-3800-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R200-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-4000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R220-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-4800-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R2400-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R300-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7500-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R320-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7600-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R340-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7800-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R800-quad.ppd.gz

**** QTR Profiles ****
K7-2880-BradfordBCoolMatte.quad         K7-2880-IPCanvas.quad
K7-2880-BradfordRBrightW.quad           K7-2880-IPPictRagCool.quad
K7-2880-BradfordRBrilliantWD.quad       K7-2880-IPPictRagWarm.quad
K7-2880-BradfordRNaturalW.quad          K7-2880-IPPrintPlusM.quad
K7-2880-EpEnhancedMatte.quad            K7-2880-IPVelvet.quad
K7-2880-EpMatteHW.quad                  K7-2880-InnovaColdPressArt.quad
K7-2880-HanAlbrechtDurer.quad           K7-2880-InnovaPhotoFibaP.quad
K7-2880-HanArtProof.quad                K7-2880-InnovaPhotoSmoothC.quad
K7-2880-HanEtching.quad                 K7-2880-InnovaSoftTexArt.quad
K7-2880-HanPhotoRag.quad                K7-2880-LgnSomersetPEnhVel.quad
K7-2880-HanPhotoRagBrtW.quad            K7-2880-MoabEntradaFABW.quad
K7-2880-HanPhotoRagSatin.quad           K7-2880-MoabEntradaFANat.quad
K7-2880-HanWhiteVelvet.quad             K7-2880-MoabKayentaPhotoM.quad
K7-2880-HanWilliamTurner.quad

**** USB connections ****
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  29516 Apr 28  2006 /usr/libexec/cups/ 
backend/usb
direct usb "Unknown" "USB Printer (usb)"
direct usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800?serial=NKO210404171147520  
"EPSON Stylus Photo R800" "Stylus Photo R800"

**** CUPS Info ****
I [12/Mar/2007:21:48:11 -0400] Saving printers.conf...
I [12/Mar/2007:21:48:11 -0400] Printer 'QuadR800-K7' started by ''.
E [12/Mar/2007:21:52:08 -0400] get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ 
printers/???' no good!
E [12/Mar/2007:21:52:08 -0400] get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ 
printers/????' no good!
E [12/Mar/2007:22:01:26 -0400] get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ 
printers/???' no good!
E [12/Mar/2007:22:01:26 -0400] get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ 
printers/????' no good!
I [12/Mar/2007:22:02:31 -0400] Saving printers.conf...
I [12/Mar/2007:22:02:31 -0400] Printer 'QuadR800-K7' modified by ''.
I [12/Mar/2007:22:03:02 -0400] Saving printers.conf...
I [12/Mar/2007:22:03:02 -0400] Printer 'QuadR800-K7' modified by ''.
I [12/Mar/2007:22:16:58 -0400] Adding start banner page "none" to job 9.
I [12/Mar/2007:22:16:58 -0400] Adding end banner page "none" to job 9.
I [12/Mar/2007:22:16:58 -0400] Job 9 queued on 'QuadR800-K7' by  
'davepolcyn'.
I [12/Mar/2007:22:16:58 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/cgpdftoraster (PID 465) for job 9.
I [12/Mar/2007:22:16:58 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/quadtoneprint (PID 466) for job 9.
I [12/Mar/2007:22:16:58 -0400] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/ 
backend/usb (PID 467) for job 9.
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : QTR using curve file K7-2880- 
EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : QTR using curve file K7-2880- 
EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : HWResolution = [ 720 720 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : ImagingBoundingBox = [ 9 9  
594 774 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : Margins = [ 0 0 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : PageSize = [ 612 792 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : cupsWidth = 5940
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : cupsHeight = 7740
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : stp_get_resolution(v) |2880|
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : stp_get_dither_algorithm(v) | 
Ordered|
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : GIMP-PRINT w=612 l=9 r=603   
h=792 t=783 b=9
N [12/Mar/2007:22:16:59 -0400] [Job 9] : GIMP-PRINT w=5940 l=90 r=90   
h=7740 t=90 b=90
I [12/Mar/2007:23:17:26 -0400] Adding start banner page "none" to job  
10.
I [12/Mar/2007:23:17:26 -0400] Adding end banner page "none" to job 10.
I [12/Mar/2007:23:17:26 -0400] Job 10 queued on 'QuadR800-K7' by  
'davepolcyn'.
I [12/Mar/2007:23:17:26 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/cgpdftoraster (PID 539) for job 10.
I [12/Mar/2007:23:17:27 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/quadtoneprint (PID 540) for job 10.
I [12/Mar/2007:23:17:27 -0400] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/ 
backend/usb (PID 554) for job 10.
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:27 -0400] [Job 10] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:27 -0400] [Job 10] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : QTR using curve file  
K7-2880-EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : QTR using curve file  
K7-2880-EpMatteHW
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : HWResolution = [ 720 720 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : ImagingBoundingBox = [ 9 9  
594 774 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : Margins = [ 0 0 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : PageSize = [ 612 792 ]
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : cupsWidth = 5940
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : cupsHeight = 7740
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : stp_get_resolution(v) |2880|
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : stp_get_dither_algorithm(v)  
|Ordered|
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : GIMP-PRINT w=612 l=9 r=603   
h=792 t=783 b=9
N [12/Mar/2007:23:17:28 -0400] [Job 10] : GIMP-PRINT w=5940 l=90  
r=90  h=7740 t=90 b=90

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On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Roy Harrington wrote:

> I haven't heard of head scraping on the R800 and people use a lot
> thicker
> paper than Epson HW Matte.
> It's hard to visualize what you mean by 3/8 inch scrapes but I suspect
> that
> you are getting some banding or roller wheel scrapes.
> In the email you sent me you used 1440 resolution. The R800 is best at
> 2880 dpi and that is what all the K7 profiles are designed for. The
> other issue
> is that the print top and bottom areas are always more prone to  
> banding.
> Leaving more white margin is a good idea.
>
> Roy
>
> On Sunday, March 11, 2007, at 03:46 PM, David Polcyn wrote:
>
> > Hi All, I hope someone can help. I just loaded my K-7 inks and
> > installed the rip and Epson R800 profiles and started with Epson
> > Matte/Hwt paper to get set up. The print looks great but there are
> > two lines of 3/8 inch scrapes just about the whole length of the
> > print. It looks like the print head or something else is making
> > contact. I put it back on the Epson print settings and it went
> > through fine. Is like the matte setting is not raising the print  
> head
> > enough. Has anyone had a similar problem and is there a fix.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave Polcyn
> >
> >
> -
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> Black & White Photo Gallery
> http://www.harrington.com
>
>
> 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I can get scraping on my 4800 using Enhanced Matte paper when the head
passes over and over the print after its final step advance. In another
words, at that point when it seems to take forever to finish printing before
finally ejecting the paper.  I get around it by keeping my 2880 printing at
High Speed. I looked at the pattern with a loupe and concluded I have no
alignment problems in high speed, so I'm using it. 

 

The problem first manifested itself when I was doing a large number of
prints at one time. I don't like wasting ink and paper, so I haven't tried
to duplicate the problem with other papers.  But if I go out of high speed,
the scraping does return.

 

Gary Reese



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Mr. Harrington,

Thanks for your help. Since the note in QTR says that you don't have  
much info on the Epson R800, I will share my experiences so far.  
Attached is a close up of the "scrapes" from my first email. I  
finally got everything going by resetting the printer system and  
tried again. The first time through produced one line of scrapes  
instead of two. I changed to byedirectional from unidirectional and  
it printed fine. the Epson matteHW looked really good. I tried the  
Han fine art pearl set to fineart proof and it really blocked up. The  
Hanphotorag looks really good with the appropriate curves. Next I  
tried the Han WmTurner and it would not seat, it just passed it on  
through. I tried three times and even restarted the printer. The last  
time it passed it through and took the next sheet of paper which was  
the Epson MatteHW and it was the best print of the night, although it  
looks a little damp (imagine that) but it has the most detail and  
separation in the shadows. Attached is the info from your script.   
Thanks for taking the time to keep your work current and I hope this  
helps a little. At least it is no longer scraping. After all this I  
will have to send Jon Cone another $150 for some more ink. Maybe I'll  
try the split-tone this time. Well I'm getting sleepy.

Hope to hear from you soon.


Dave Polcyn, OHIO U. FBA 1981

Last login: Wed Mar 14 20:52:45 on ttyp1
/Applications/QuadtoneRip/DiagnosticScript.command; exit
Welcome to Darwin!
david-polcyns-powermacg3series:~ davepolcyn$ /Applications/ 
QuadtoneRip/DiagnosticScript.command; exit

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****

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Wed Mar 14 22:30:36 EDT 2007

**** System Info ****
Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep  8 17:18:57 PDT 2006;  
root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

**** Printer Info ****
scheduler is running
system default destination: QuadR800-K7
device for QuadR800-K7: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800? 
serial=NKO210404171147520
device for Quadtone_K_7_R800: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800? 
serial=NKO210404171147520
device for Stylus_Photo_R800: ///dev/null
QuadR800-K7 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00
Quadtone_K_7_R800 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00
Stylus_Photo_R800 accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00
printer QuadR800-K7 is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00
         Ready to print.
printer Quadtone_K_7_R800 is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00
printer Stylus_Photo_R800 is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00

**** QTR Programs ****
/usr/local/bin
Quad.pm*        qcurve*         qgamma*         qmerge*          
quadcurves*
qacv*           qdensity*       qgraph*         qpart*           
quadprofile*
qacvraw*        qdiff*          qlimit*         qplot*
qadd*           qdotgain*       qline*          qspline*

/usr/libexec/cups/filter
quadtoneprint*  quadtoprinter*

**** Plugin Programs ****
total 0
drwxrwxrwx   3 root      admin  102 Feb 27 22:29 AdobePDFPDE.plugin
drwxr-xr-x   3 davepolc  admin  102 May 23  2006 QuadTone.plugin

**** QTR Printer Descriptions ****
/usr/share/cups/model/C
escp2-10000-quad.ppd.gz         escp2-860-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1160-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-870-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1200-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-890-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1270-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9000-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1280-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9500-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-1290-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9600-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-2000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-980-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-2100-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-9800-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-2200-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-EX-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-3000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R1800-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-3800-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R200-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-4000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R220-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-4800-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R2400-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7000-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R300-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7500-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R320-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7600-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R340-quad.ppd.gz
escp2-7800-quad.ppd.gz          escp2-R800-quad.ppd.gz

**** QTR Profiles ****
K7-2880-BradfordBCoolMatte.quad         K7-2880-IPCanvas.quad
K7-2880-BradfordRBrightW.quad           K7-2880-IPPictRagCool.quad
K7-2880-BradfordRBrilliantWD.quad       K7-2880-IPPictRagWarm.quad
K7-2880-BradfordRNaturalW.quad          K7-2880-IPPrintPlusM.quad
K7-2880-EpEnhancedMatte.quad            K7-2880-IPVelvet.quad
K7-2880-EpMatteHW.quad                  K7-2880-InnovaColdPressArt.quad
K7-2880-HanAlbrechtDurer.quad           K7-2880-InnovaPhotoFibaP.quad
K7-2880-HanArtProof.quad                K7-2880-InnovaPhotoSmoothC.quad
K7-2880-HanEtching.quad                 K7-2880-InnovaSoftTexArt.quad
K7-2880-HanPhotoRag.quad                K7-2880-LgnSomersetPEnhVel.quad
K7-2880-HanPhotoRagBrtW.quad            K7-2880-MoabEntradaFABW.quad
K7-2880-HanPhotoRagSatin.quad           K7-2880-MoabEntradaFANat.quad
K7-2880-HanWhiteVelvet.quad             K7-2880-MoabKayentaPhotoM.quad
K7-2880-HanWilliamTurner.quad

**** USB connections ****
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  29516 Apr 28  2006 /usr/libexec/cups/ 
backend/usb
direct usb "Unknown" "USB Printer (usb)"
direct usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800?serial=NKO210404171147520  
"EPSON Stylus Photo R800" "Stylus Photo R800"

**** CUPS Info ****
N [14/Mar/2007:21:48:53 -0400] [Job 4] : cupsWidth = 5940
N [14/Mar/2007:21:48:53 -0400] [Job 4] : cupsHeight = 7740
N [14/Mar/2007:21:48:53 -0400] [Job 4] : stp_get_resolution(v) |2880|
N [14/Mar/2007:21:48:53 -0400] [Job 4] : stp_get_dither_algorithm(v) | 
Ordered|
N [14/Mar/2007:21:48:53 -0400] [Job 4] : GIMP-PRINT w=612 l=9 r=603   
h=792 t=783 b=9
N [14/Mar/2007:21:48:53 -0400] [Job 4] : GIMP-PRINT w=5940 l=90 r=90   
h=7740 t=90 b=90
I [14/Mar/2007:22:04:28 -0400] Adding start banner page "none" to job 5.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:04:28 -0400] Job 5 queued on 'QuadR800-K7' by  
'davepolcyn'.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:04:28 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/cgpdftoraster (PID 442) for job 5.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:04:29 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/quadtoneprint (PID 443) for job 5.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:04:29 -0400] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/ 
backend/usb (PID 444) for job 5.
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:29 -0400] [Job 5] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:29 -0400] [Job 5] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : QTR using curve file K7-2880- 
HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : QTR using curve file K7-2880- 
HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : HWResolution = [ 720 720 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : ImagingBoundingBox = [ 9 9  
594 774 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : Margins = [ 0 0 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : PageSize = [ 612 792 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : cupsWidth = 5940
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : cupsHeight = 7740
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : stp_get_resolution(v) |2880|
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : stp_get_dither_algorithm(v) | 
Ordered|
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : GIMP-PRINT w=612 l=9 r=603   
h=792 t=783 b=9
N [14/Mar/2007:22:04:30 -0400] [Job 5] : GIMP-PRINT w=5940 l=90 r=90   
h=7740 t=90 b=90
E [14/Mar/2007:22:05:24 -0400] [Job 5] -536870163: Unable to send  
print file to printer (canceled -536870163)
E [14/Mar/2007:22:05:24 -0400] PID 444 stopped with status 237!
I [14/Mar/2007:22:05:24 -0400] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to  
"debug" to find out more.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:09 -0400] Saving printers.conf...
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:09 -0400] Job 5 was held by 'davepolcyn'.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:11 -0400] Job 5 was released by 'davepolcyn'.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:29 -0400] Saving printers.conf...
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:29 -0400] Printer 'QuadR800-K7' started by ''.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:29 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/cgpdftoraster (PID 457) for job 5.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:29 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/ 
filter/quadtoneprint (PID 458) for job 5.
I [14/Mar/2007:22:06:29 -0400] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/ 
backend/usb (PID 459) for job 5.
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:29 -0400] [Job 5] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:29 -0400] [Job 5] : QuadToneRIP: using curve  
K7-2880-HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : QTR using curve file K7-2880- 
HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : QTR using curve file K7-2880- 
HanWilliamTurner
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : HWResolution = [ 720 720 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : ImagingBoundingBox = [ 9 9  
594 774 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : Margins = [ 0 0 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : PageSize = [ 612 792 ]
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : cupsWidth = 5940
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : cupsHeight = 7740
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : stp_get_resolution(v) |2880|
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : stp_get_dither_algorithm(v) | 
Ordered|
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : GIMP-PRINT w=612 l=9 r=603   
h=792 t=783 b=9
N [14/Mar/2007:22:06:30 -0400] [Job 5] : GIMP-PRINT w=5940 l=90 r=90   
h=7740 t=90 b=90

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On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Roy Harrington wrote:

> I haven't heard of head scraping on the R800 and people use a lot
> thicker
> paper than Epson HW Matte.
> It's hard to visualize what you mean by 3/8 inch scrapes but I suspect
> that
> you are getting some banding or roller wheel scrapes.
> In the email you sent me you used 1440 resolution. The R800 is best at
> 2880 dpi and that is what all the K7 profiles are designed for. The
> other issue
> is that the print top and bottom areas are always more prone to  
> banding.
> Leaving more white margin is a good idea.
>
> Roy
>
> On Sunday, March 11, 2007, at 03:46 PM, David Polcyn wrote:
>
> > Hi All, I hope someone can help. I just loaded my K-7 inks and
> > installed the rip and Epson R800 profiles and started with Epson
> > Matte/Hwt paper to get set up. The print looks great but there are
> > two lines of 3/8 inch scrapes just about the whole length of the
> > print. It looks like the print head or something else is making
> > contact. I put it back on the Epson print settings and it went
> > through fine. Is like the matte setting is not raising the print  
> head
> > enough. Has anyone had a similar problem and is there a fix.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave Polcyn
> >
> >
> -
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> Black & White Photo Gallery
> http://www.harrington.com
>
>
> 



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Thanks to Matt and Gary for your input Matte. I reset my printer  
system and reinstalled both the Epson and QTR software and it seems  
to be working now after I switched to by-directional.

Happy printing!

Dave Polcyn

On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Gary A. Reese wrote:

> I can get scraping on my 4800 using Enhanced Matte paper when the head
> passes over and over the print after its final step advance. In  
> another
> words, at that point when it seems to take forever to finish  
> printing before
> finally ejecting the paper. I get around it by keeping my 2880  
> printing at
> High Speed. I looked at the pattern with a loupe and concluded I  
> have no
> alignment problems in high speed, so I'm using it.
>
> The problem first manifested itself when I was doing a large number of
> prints at one time. I don't like wasting ink and paper, so I  
> haven't tried
> to duplicate the problem with other papers. But if I go out of high  
> speed,
> the scraping does return.
>
> Gary Reese
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 



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I'm having the same problem described by others on my Epson 1280, but 
none of the suggested solutions seem to work.

The printer is already on the thick paper setting. Changing to 
bidirectional did not solve the problem.

On my latest print, I got a fine  scrape along both edges using 
Hahenhumule Photo rag duo using bidirectional. I ran a test using the 
Epson settings on the same print and there were no scrapes.

I got quite a noticeable scrape using Epson Velvet Art again using 
bidirectional.

I have had no problem so far using Photo Rag Bright White which is 
only a slightly lighter grade of paper.

And the scrapes on the Photo Rag Duo seem to be inconsistent, while 
several pictures I have printed on the 1280 using QTR have scapes, a 
couple do not and there seems to be no reason why.

Robin

To answer my own question after further tests, I found that working 
on 1280 wide margins seem to solve the problem. With at least a half 
inch margin (at least on letter size paper) there is no scraping or 
thin lines on the print. With that success I went back to 
unidirectional printing with no problem.

RR


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <robin@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I'm having the same problem described by others on my Epson 1280, 
but 
> none of the suggested solutions seem to work.
> 
> The printer is already on the thick paper setting. Changing to 
> bidirectional did not solve the problem.
> 
> On my latest print, I got a fine  scrape along both edges using 
> Hahenhumule Photo rag duo using bidirectional. I ran a test using 
the 
> Epson settings on the same print and there were no scrapes.
> 
> I got quite a noticeable scrape using Epson Velvet Art again using 
> bidirectional.
> 
> I have had no problem so far using Photo Rag Bright White which is 
> only a slightly lighter grade of paper.
> 
> And the scrapes on the Photo Rag Duo seem to be inconsistent, while 
> several pictures I have printed on the 1280 using QTR have scapes, 
a 

> couple do not and there seems to be no reason why.
> 
> Robin
>