QTR-Quadtone RIP

I'm using QTR on a PC running XP. Files saved as greyscale tiffs as 
instructed and dragged to the print window. The results are terrible. Black 
and white photographs are printing very, very dark-wasting lots of ink 
(Eboni matt black and UT colour cartridges) in the process. I'm printing on 
Permajet Museum Classic for which there doesn't appear to be a profile so 
I've used the EEM profile (and tried one or two others as well with the 
same results).

Can anyone say what might be going wrong here? Using the limit and 
gamma adjustment tools help a little but prints are still far too dark. Other 
than sending a very light file to QTR, is there a solution?

Thanks,
Bruce

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Robbins"
<bruce.robbins@...> wrote:
>
> I'm using QTR on a PC running XP. Files saved as greyscale tiffs as 
> instructed and dragged to the print window. The results are
terrible. Black 
> and white photographs are printing very, very dark-wasting lots of ink 
> (Eboni matt black and UT colour cartridges) in the process. I'm
printing on 
> Permajet Museum Classic for which there doesn't appear to be a
profile so 
> I've used the EEM profile (and tried one or two others as well with the 
> same results).
> 
> Can anyone say what might be going wrong here? Using the limit and 
> gamma adjustment tools help a little but prints are still far too
dark. Other 
> than sending a very light file to QTR, is there a solution?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>


Hi, 
the same thing happened to me! I changed from printing with 2880dpi to
1440dpi and it solved the problem for me. 
Have only tried it with epson mattepaper, i´ll try it with glossy as
well when i get more ink.

/Jari

You might try using a paper for which there's a profile.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Robbins" <bruce.robbins@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Initial QTR results very poor-help needed...


I'm using QTR on a PC running XP. Files saved as greyscale tiffs as
instructed and dragged to the print window. The results are terrible. Black
and white photographs are printing very, very dark-wasting lots of ink
(Eboni matt black and UT colour cartridges) in the process. I'm printing on
Permajet Museum Classic for which there doesn't appear to be a profile so
I've used the EEM profile (and tried one or two others as well with the
same results).

Can anyone say what might be going wrong here? Using the limit and
gamma adjustment tools help a little but prints are still far too dark. 
Other
than sending a very light file to QTR, is there a solution?

Thanks,
Bruce

Hi Brian and Jari ,

I don't think the lack of a profile can be the problem. Although 
using another but similar paper's profile isn't ideal, I can't 
believe it would have the effect of flooding the Permajet paper with 
ink to the extent that it is virtually all black! There surely can't 
be that much difference between two profiles for matte paper. Of all 
the profiles on QTR I'd imagine there must be one that would give at 
least reasonable results on Permajet. If someone knows better, can 
you please put me right.

Jari, I haven't had time yet to try your suggestion of printing at 
1440 but will definitely give it a go. Thanks.



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Ellis" <bellis60@...> 
wrote:
>
> You might try using a paper for which there's a profile.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Robbins" <bruce.robbins@...>
> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:54 PM
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Initial QTR results very poor-help needed...
> 
> 
> I'm using QTR on a PC running XP. Files saved as greyscale tiffs as
> instructed and dragged to the print window. The results are 
terrible. Black
> and white photographs are printing very, very dark-wasting lots of 
ink
> (Eboni matt black and UT colour cartridges) in the process. I'm 
printing on
> Permajet Museum Classic for which there doesn't appear to be a 
profile so
> I've used the EEM profile (and tried one or two others as well with 
the
> same results).
> 
> Can anyone say what might be going wrong here? Using the limit and
> gamma adjustment tools help a little but prints are still far too 
dark. 

> Other
> than sending a very light file to QTR, is there a solution?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>

Hi Bruce.... most of the profiles were created while printing at 1440
dpi.  I think that the ones created at 2880 have that number in their
name.  If you want to print at 2880 you can try lowering your ink
limit adjustment (in the QTR driver) to -35 or -40.

Ed

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Robbins"
<bruce.robbins@...> wrote:

>
> snip...

> Jari, I haven't had time yet to try your suggestion of printing at 
> 1440 but will definitely give it a go. Thanks.

"I don't think the lack of a profile can be the problem. Although
using another but similar paper's profile isn't ideal, I can't
believe it would have the effect of flooding the Permajet paper with
ink to the extent that it is virtually all black!"

I don't either. But your original message didn't say you were flooding the 
paper to the extent that it was virtually all black. You said the prints 
were very very dark.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Robbins" <bruce.robbins@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Initial QTR results very poor-help needed...


Hi Brian and Jari ,

I don't think the lack of a profile can be the problem. Although
using another but similar paper's profile isn't ideal, I can't
believe it would have the effect of flooding the Permajet paper with
ink to the extent that it is virtually all black! There surely can't
be that much difference between two profiles for matte paper. Of all
the profiles on QTR I'd imagine there must be one that would give at
least reasonable results on Permajet. If someone knows better, can
you please put me right.

Jari, I haven't had time yet to try your suggestion of printing at
1440 but will definitely give it a go. Thanks.



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Ellis" <bellis60@...>
wrote:
>
> You might try using a paper for which there's a profile.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Robbins" <bruce.robbins@...>
> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:54 PM
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Initial QTR results very poor-help needed...
>
>
> I'm using QTR on a PC running XP. Files saved as greyscale tiffs as
> instructed and dragged to the print window. The results are
terrible. Black
> and white photographs are printing very, very dark-wasting lots of
ink
> (Eboni matt black and UT colour cartridges) in the process. I'm
printing on
> Permajet Museum Classic for which there doesn't appear to be a
profile so
> I've used the EEM profile (and tried one or two others as well with
the
> same results).
>
> Can anyone say what might be going wrong here? Using the limit and
> gamma adjustment tools help a little but prints are still far too
dark.

> Other
> than sending a very light file to QTR, is there a solution?
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>