PLAN B analog blog

--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure
that out)" <peter@...> wrote:
>
hi pete,

yeah i was only talking about DC in that example - but thanks, that
clears things up lots. i've already decided i want one and i hadn't
even considered using min&max at audio rates - i guess you could do
some waveshaping stuff with min and max of one processor being mixed
by the other... yum. any idea when schneider's/mesi will have them in?

cheers,
t

> Hey tom.
> 
> These are good quesitions.
> 
> If these inputs are constant (DC), then:
> 
> Max would be +5.  Min would be ground
> 
> But let's say the 5 volt input is DC and the 2 volt input is AC (+/- 2
> volts), then:
> 
> Max would be +5, min would be -2
> 
> Huh?
> 
> The maximum output won't go lower than ground.  The minimum on the
> other hand works the region from ground down, so it won't go higher
> than ground.  They both rest at ground (no inputs in either 1, 2, 3
> and no offset). 
> 
> So if you have an input that's not crossing below ground, the Min will
> rest at ground waiting.  As soon as a single or multiple cross lower
> ground, then the Min will give you the lowest of those at any given
> time.  
> 
> Ditto for the Max out, but in reverse.  If none of the inputs are
> above ground, the Max input is at rest.  As soon as one or more are
> higher than ground, the Max will give you the highest voltage of the
> inputs at any given time.
> 
> THis would be screwy if the offset pot wasn't configured the way it
> is.  It's just that.  At 12'o clock or therebouts (when the LED is not
> lit when there's no input activity), the offset is at null - there is
> no offset.  as you turn the pot CW from there, it injects positive
> voltage into the mix - it raises the resting voltage up. So if you had
> no inputs going higher than ground, you can offset them upward so
they do.
> 
> When the offset pot is turned CCW from 12 o clock, it injexts a
> negative voltage into the mix, so you can offset your inputs downward,
> thus activate the min output when it would otherwise be resting.
> 
> The moral is...there's a reason for the madness of having all those
pots!
> 
> hope this helps,
> 
> - P
> 
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> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "tommy_molotov"
> <tommy_molotov@> wrote:
> >
> > hey pete - another question about the model 14, specifically the min &
> > max. say you have 2V going into input 1, 5V going into input 2, and
> > nothing plugged into input 3. what's the min output going to be, 2V
> or 0V?
> > 
> > t
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure
> > that out)" <peter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Cray, whaddya say?
> > > 
> > > Sorry.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anyway...the Model 14 is equal to a Serge Processor, a Peak and
> > > Through (which they don't make any longer) and a voltage controlled
> > > crossfader, much like the ones n his Equal Power Processor (not
sure o
> > > what it's called now) So it M14 has more functionality than the
Serge
> > > Processor. Plus you get the ifty dual color LEDs!
> > > 
> > > Remember each of the M14 processors have three different outputs
- sum
> > > (ala Serge Processor) max (outputs the highest voltage of inputs and
> > > min (the lowest voltage of the inputs).  So you've got two of those
> > > -and- the corssfder, which is equal power transfer (no DB drop
in the
> > > middle) and it can be patched out independantly of the
processors - ou
> > > can se the crossfader as a standalone.
> > > 
> > > (This is starting to sound like the hard sale at this point), but...
> > > another thing to keep in mind: havng two dual processos isn't the
> > > worst possible outcome on the planet.  I've got eight!
> > > 
> > > - P
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "cray5656" <amni56@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi peter
> > > > 
> > > > i am looking to buy your model 14 dual voltage processor, but just
> > > > realised i have a dual processor on my serge, that i havent as yet
> > > > used, with the lack of info out there for the serge dual
> processor is
> > > > it very similar to your model 14, if so i will spend my money
on the
> > > > state filter instead.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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